The Next Level....The Next Day

[medwin]

Well what did everyone think? Up until 12 o'clock last night I didn't even think I was going...decided to go on the spur of the moment!

Got there just in time for Mickey Finn's set which was fucking wicked. Missed a bit of it though coz I went back to the car and there was that big line to get back in (dodgy fake tickets!!)

Steven's set went off, as per usual, and el hornet ended the night in true style.The only bad thing was the air conditioning (or lack of it)

Big allo to all those I met (anna, i, and everyone else) Sorry I missed the meet up. Allround top night! Glad I ended up going!

[medwin]

btw, that tune that el hornet played at the end with the jim morrison vocals, can someone please tell me who its by and what its called? cheers

[Sappy]

What I saw of Mickey Finn was really good the only problem being , that I also made the mistake of going out to the front were when we went to go back in we were told by a dwarf with a ponytail and a serious steroid addiction, that we couldn’t go back in because "it was too full and would have to wait for people to come out". Now the question is how did it get so full I doubt it was because of doggy tixs(they were checking uv markings).I think that it was possibly dew to the greed of the drum club by selling more tixs than they could legally sell and then attempt to fix this problem by keeping people who have paid $30 outside,which is completely fuked up so we have to suffer because the drum club wants to get few extra dollars. Fuk the drum club and its new years bullshite i dont want to be standing in an ally on new years eve because drum club f***** up again.

[akira]

Yeah I thought it was a bit odd when we arrived at around 1:30 and were made to wait for 20 minutes due to overcrowding yet they were letting other people straight in...I'm sure they had their reasons but god knows what they were. Anyone tell me how Finn's set was? Had to miss it due to set times in the second room being switched around. Still had a good night though.

[Paul]

Great night shame about some of the people in line outside sorry to hear you guys missed out.that tango type tune finn played what a spinna! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[sinistah]

bwoh what a night! crowd got pumpin it was wicked to see, pity i've got a massive fuxn headache.

sleep time

[stealth]

Yes yes. What an absolutely MAD night!
Mickey Finns set was brilliant! Elhornet and Muller ended the night wonderfully too!!!
Big up to all the dj's, mc's, drum club and the crowd

Went to the meetup, finally got to meet a few of yall http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

I was a bit surprised to see 3 (almost) fights, but there was quite a few dodgy kunts there I guess.

Shouts to the guy in the army top that thought "he was a soldier fighting in afganastan"

All in all a very good night. Great choons, great vibe http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

[hitmonlee]

mm, yes hada good time
luckily no waiting in lines or anything for me

unfortunately i am bruised as i was trying to get somewhere when one of the fights broke out and i got kicked in the hip.

[DJ Mystique]

Well I missed out on meeting some of you guys as I am ill and couldn't go, there will always be a next time, sounds like everyone had a good one. I can't believe there were fights, I wish people would go for the music and not to fight! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[mercedes]

t'was a good night. really enjoyed mickey's set, and the local boys did a fine job as usual http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
good to meet some t/sers at the meetup- hi to random, osiris, dakaktas, i (thanks for introducing everyone http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )...and anyone else. its wierd 'cause people sure aren't what you expect them to be!

[D4Kaktus]

last night was great fun http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i'd just had a real shit of a day, and it was awesome to unwind. went rather mad on the dance floor for a few hours, and loved it http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif))

mmmmmmm.... methinks ill come out and play this sat http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif should be fun. helllllooooooo to all the people i met too, gotta love meetups http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

right now ill pick up the pieces and get studying for my last exam on wednsday.

[Rico]

I had a fucked up headache.
BUT wicked choons, and stuff.

I dunno about the fights though.....

[medwin]

yeah I heard about the fights. Didn't see anything though. Apparently there was some guy off his tits who wanted to go everyone....sounds more like the kalamunda pub to me!

[sausage]

i didnt pay $35 to stand in line and watch some dwarf masturbate over his ponytail...now i know why everyone hates bouncers

where was the meetup...i didnt see a sign???

[medwin]

Quote from sausage, posted on 18-11-2001 14:01

i didnt pay $35 to stand in line and watch some dwarf masturbate over his ponytail...now i know why everyone hates bouncers

where was the meetup...i didnt see a sign???

just outside the toilets

[Vilandra]

Quote from sausage, posted on 18-11-2001 14:01

i didnt pay $35 to stand in line and watch some dwarf masturbate over his ponytail...now i know why everyone hates bouncers

no shit, he was a dick
wasnt happy with that....really regretted going out to buy smokes! what shoulda been a 5 min trip...turned into about an hour waiting to get back in http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/mad.gif

[sausage]

i was so pissed off...i didnt give a fuk who he was, i was about to go in no matter who was in my way

...oh well there is a next time

[osiris]

Quote from medwin, posted on 18-11-2001 07:35

btw, that tune that el hornet played at the end with the jim morrison vocals, can someone please tell me who its by and what its called? cheers

ladies of spain by bad company. i love it


well i had an awesome night. got to put a few names to faces @ the rather successful meetup and mickey finn went off http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

hey RL, mercedes, stealth, dakaktus, i, tecnojonny, and anyone else i forgot!!!


Si

ps what the f**k was with the chicks in the toilets. oh well i got a kiss out of em http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif

[medwin]

Quote from osiris, posted on 18-11-2001 14:44

ladies of spain by bad company. i love it

cheers for that! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif I was the biggest doors freak when I was younger...I mean, before the movie came out...then everyone jumped on the band wagon. Good to see Jim's words and lyrics still have an effect in this day and age! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

"...Before I slip...into the deep sleep...I want to hear...I want to hear...the screeeeeeam of the butterfly..."

[K Babey]

I missed the meetup, didnt even see a sign.

[lysergic]

very cool night!

it was fun to jump around to hardcore for a change.
and akira - ur set was mad! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif my favourite of the night (surprise surprise?).
more psy please. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[lysergic]

oh but i didnt see the meetup either.. ah well http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[nigel]

I'm not sure why everyone had a headache but I had a fucking blinder too. Nonetheless I had a great time!
Mickeys set was quite good. A few really old and thrashed tunes in there but overall I think it was quite good.

Went to the meetup and met Dakaktus, Osiris, i, and RL, which was cool. The only downside about the meetup was a particular nameless person who looked me up and down and gave me evils as I was shaking his hand, yet had nothing to say? Weak http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

It was good to see the inclusion of a second room, and all the sets I heard in there were class, apart from the no show from Berzerk?

The crowding issues were due to forged tickets. Drum Club had actually stopped selling tickets when they reached the capacity they were allowed, so unfortunately you can only blame it on the scammers. That line was terrible I agree.

Absoloutely wicked crowd all night. 5am shutdown and everyone was still going totally mental.
Well done to all of you for making it a wicked party.

[certanstyle]

To be honest I don't normally post on here but last night has made me so angry. Usually I just go the the MFI and Emerge events but a few friends said that the Next Level would be cool.
Paid my money and got shamelessly ripped off. I don't usually complain but last night it was so wrong. You don't pay money to see an act and enjoy yourself and then spend the whole time in a cue. And then deal with the nasty and don't give a shit attitude of the people working the door and the security. That guy at the front of the cue was nasty and anyone who I tried to ask for help or a refund even just ignored me. The same with my friends.
After missing most of Micky Finn set we finally got in and it was too hard to move around. Excuse me dancing space. We got pushed and shoved and almost dragged into a fight between 3 or 4 guys. Absolute shit.
Not to mention the fact that it was a sauna and the sound was distorted. I have only been going to events for about a year but this was by far the worst. Absolutely nothing like After Forever or Blackout last year. I haven't experienced any of these problems the other times I have been out. I spoke with a few other people outside and they thought the same. Never again will I go to one of their events.
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[screwiconboard]

fark, sounds like nothing's changed with ye olde drum clubbe promoters eh? always for the money. shame to hear people had a bad night because of it too.

[nigel]

Like I said, the queue was relative to forged tickets.
The venue has a legal capacity. The amount of tickets were sold to fill that capacity, but there was more people than tickets that were sold, so the venue OWNER (note: a seperate person from the promoter) made people queue up. He stood at the entrance and was instructing the security to let one person in when one person left and so on.

A fucked up situation, yes.

I didn't see the fights, but thats really not on.

[tomgeezer]

by the sounds of it i'm really, really glad i wasn't there

[certanstyle]

I guess I shouldn't be writing when I am still angry but that just doesn't cut it. Aside from the cue there were heaps of other things wrong as I mentioned. If there were forged tickets which I doubt why was this not explained. Surely someone from Drum Club could have stood at the cue and told people rather than have that prick bouncer be nasty to everyone. And it also doesn't explain why when we asked the Drum Club people what was wrong or for a refund we got no response.
You pay money to see Mickey Finn then you should get to see him. You pay money to have a good night and you get fights and bullshit negative attitude getting pushed by other people because there was no room.
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[nigel]

Yeah I agree with you there.
Personally I found the crowd and vibe to be pretty good, it's just a shame that some people see fit to go to events and act like idiots.

[Rico]

I didn't have any of these probs.
I didn't go outside though.
The only prob I had was the nutscase that kept bumping into me, -with the army shirt. I kept teling him to watch where he was going but he kept doing it, next minute he wa under this dude, with dreds copping a few.
Dunno what happenned, but he thought he was karate kid when he got back up.
Also, where were the bouncers?
Oh, and SOMEONE took my name at the door, or the door chick was lying. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[technojohny]

Quote from osiris, posted on 18-11-2001 14:44
ps what the f**k was with the chicks in the toilets. oh well i got a kiss out of em http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif

You must have been number ten? Lucky sod! I was 3 AND 11 & I didn't get one!
Had a great night. Was initially a bit disappointed that there was no line up details posted as I usually like to plan my evening between the two rooms, but then just going with the flow for a change worked out fine. Didn't see much of Mickey Finn's set because of the crowding, but from the bit I did see, it made me realise how good the local djs are! Good to see a successful meet up this time too. Nice to meet you guys, probably be a few more meets before I start to remember who everyone is, but then I've never been very good with faces, and I ain't gettin' any younger! Hopefully meet some of you again next Friday/Saturday, can't wait! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Sappy]

The drum club people had a UV light to check for fake tixs this was not the main cause of the problem. The problem was that they (drum club) thought they would be able to get away with selling too many tix but when the owners found out that was when the troble started. The bouncers never said their were fake tix only that the venue was too full, when asked how or why it became too full their was no answer. I just hope that shit like this dosnt happen again.

[weez]

mmm..
lucky i was told bout the cue otherwise id be stuck outside
still the nite was a blinder...personally i only caught an hour of mickey and too tell the truth its no the greatest shit ive heard..

but the hardcore seemed 2 dominate the 2nd room!!>...
wif tune like eyeopener and love&devotion and a hardcore mix of time after time i think..the crowd went nuts...

i have a headache 2 http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/sad.gif

got 2 meet and see the gabbertron machine in action! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/tounge.gif

[i]

Dunno what happened for you guys but my nite was great http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Good tunes all night... Vibe was good and the t/skp meetup was suprisingly good!

my head feels fine... but hey i only just got home under 2 hours ago.

Plenty of pics taken.. I'll post an addy in here when they're done!

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[K Babey]

I had a great night aswell http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Although no alcohol on the night was a bit of a bummer but I still had a great night regardless.
I thought the Drum Club did a fine effort considering the circumstances. Nice one http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[RandomLogik]

Personally i had a good night.
The crowd was totally up for it, not too many dodgies etc.
totally awesome vibe in the dnb room as well as the second arena .

I unfortunately missed half of mickey finns set due to the problems at the front entrance - i'm not buying that excuse ..
although i was rather pleased with the sounds from the locals .

The hardcore was a must for me, had a good time bouncing away at the beginning of the night, but what was up with the sound system that kept stopping ?

Teknoscape meetup : heheh got a few weird looks as i was putting up the sign (by the way the sign was near the stairs to the girls toilets , next to the guys) met fellow teknoscapers i, shesgotone, dakaktus, stealth, technojohnny, elhornet, osiris, and anyone else i missed. Oh and thumbs up for all the teknoscapers that didn't make it to the meetup who all seemd to be making a killer of a night (weez, phat brat, rico, and of course medwin http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif )

a few problems : (lineup times, overcrowding - c'mon guys now that is not on !, and an early finish - exactly why was that ?) and the testosterone of the security team, who when i asked why we were not allowed in simply replied "overcrowded" - and failed to provide any information on "fAkE TiCkEtS" .

apart from that, i had a definately worthwhile night, good venue setup, not too many people fuct up (it was clear to see that this event, the majority were there for the tunes), good to see the hardcore going for longer than it should have , nice one ! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif
for me - definately worthwhile, but wheres the respect eh ?

oh and one more thing - the fights. i witnessed one at the very end, and as soon as the lights and music stopped, this dodgy looking fellow immediately turned around to start on some guy, the poor guy didn't want to fight, i couldn't help myself but to tell him to leave it alone .

okay enough said http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

hope everybody had a good night http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

[K Babey]

There WAS a problem with fake tickets, I was standing at the door at the time talking to Johnno and a few others when they discovered it, the tickets that were fake all had the same number on them....You should not be blaming the drum club for what happened but the fuckwit who ripped everybody off by printing up fake tickets and scoring probably a nice lill profit on the side.

[K Babey]

The over crowding on the night would have been a direct result of the fake tickets, who knows how many people got through with them before they realised there was a problem...combine that with the legit ticket sales and what do you have....more people than expected.

[K Babey]

Hey did Churchie rock up to the meetup??

[RandomLogik]

nah he didn't . well not while i was there anyway.

hmm i did hear of someones mate being offered cheaper tix.
Do you have any idea of who it could be ?

but what about the UV light (as mentioned above) and the lack of information from the security ?

[nigel]

Thanks for the backup on that Keelz. I don't usually make a habit of fabricating wild stories. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif
With the amount of people in total at the venue on the weekend, I still think they would have had plenty of room, however the venue owner saw it a little differently.



a few problems : (lineup times, overcrowding - c'mon guys now that is not on !, and an early finish - exactly why was that ?) and the testosterone of the security team, who when i asked why we were not allowed in simply replied "overcrowded" - and failed to provide any information on "fAkE TiCkEtS" .


The early finish was by choice of the venue owner. 5am is too early in my opinion, but thats their choice.

The overcrowding issue has been explained, not sure why you'd bring it up again really. Soapbox?
Ideally the security guys probably weren't all sure of exactly what was going on, hence the lack of information you received.
Theres fake tickets at nearly every event, so don't think thats something people would make up as an excuse.
I think the Raggabone crew did a good job keeping things running smoothly considering.

I guess at the end of the day I'm happy because I had a wicked time.

[K Babey]

Well when we went through and handed our ticks to the girl behind the desk she didnt even put them under the UV light, later on myself and Nat were chattin to Johnno and a few others at the desk and they started randomly checking the tickets they collected it and they noticed it, it was quite hard to notice under the UV light.

No idea who the culprit was but that shit is just wack. Ruined most peoples night.
not sure why the secuirty guards said nothing, lol, perhaps their complete lack of social skills..

[RandomLogik]

Paul how did the other event go ?

i realize that it had already been explained, but it is just my thoughts on the night. You have to admit, it did sound a little dodge .. but as you've explained the problem more clearly to me now, i don't feel the need to continue with it.

At the end of the day i'm happy too, because i had a good night, as it says in my post . http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ..

[nigel]

I didn't make it to the dreams party. Was supposed to get a call to see if it was worth going there after Next Level. Didn't get one so I guess it closed early?
Lineup times in the second room made more sense than the original lineup, but it would have been good if someone remembered to do a few little posters with the times on it.

Alans set probably got screwed around due to the spur of the moment decision by the owners to close at 5 instead of 6.

[RandomLogik]

yeah lineup times would have been an extra.

i wanted to see dave play. he was supposed to be playing later in the night, and i found that when i had arrived, he had just finished his set.
i heard a track that he had made in the morning, it was actually quite good.
paul weren't you supposed to play at dreams party ?

anyone heard of how the hills party went ?

[Sappy]

You can make all the excuses you want but the drum club fuked up . Excepting the idea that their was fake tixs than the grumpy lady at the door shouldn?t of been so damn lazy an actually checked all the tix . The bouncers at the door were definitely quilty of selling to many tix and i personally have spoken to under age people who have gotten into the drum club with a $10 bribe (to the front door man who cheeks ID's). Either way the promoters of this event fuked it up , and i hope everybody remebers this and boycotts the drum club New years event we have to stand together and show that we will not put up with this short of shit.

I am waiting for the drum clubs official response for what happened on Saturday night.

[nigel]

HAHAHA a $10 bribe!
I nearly fell off my chair laughing! The bouncers at the Drum are different pretty much every week! If someone offered them $10 to get in they'd piss themselves laughing.

This event was the first all ages party ever done by the Drum Club. You've got to expect teething problems http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif
The whole thing is ideally a learning experience for promoters and the same mistakes are rarely made twice.



Either way the promoters of this event fuked it up , and i hope everybody remebers this and boycotts the drum club New years event we have to stand together and show that we will not put up with this short of shit.


My god. You are a complete idiot, or possibly a rival promoter.
Or maybe both.

[sinistah]

haha yeah.
the night seemed uneventfull to me in the way of shit going down... didnt see any fights or anything, its a pity i played earlier, had a splitting headache so i wasnt really walking around much.

i think the event went very well considering it was drum club's first all ages event.

[dave]

i wet the bed until i was 12 years old

[Sappy]

Elhornet i wonder how much drum club pays you, i imagine it would be worth your will to stick up for these fuk heads , i guess you weren?t stuck in a line for an hour either. In regards to the bribe, have you been to drum club recently have a look around and tell me what you see ( anybody look kinda young) i know for a fact that one of my friends got into the drum club with a bribe. Also unfortunately i am not a promoter though if i was i would be doing things allot differently to what drum club are doing. I wonder how many people out their who bought a drum club membership thought they got a good deal. The drum club is interested in one thing only making money and i just hope they realize their mistake and learn from this experience

[jamie]

in regard to the forged tickets.
this isn't the first time this year, i think MFI has had 3 or 4 gigs this year with forged tickets.
most recently at after forever.
having extra security measures done on tickets isn't cheap believe it or not..
its things like this which jack up the price of tickets for the legit payers.

[nigel]

Quote from Sappy, posted on 19-11-2001 00:13

Elhornet i wonder how much drum club pays you, i imagine it would be worth your will to stick up for these fuk heads , i guess you weren?t stuck in a line for an hour either. In regards to the bribe, have you been to drum club recently have a look around and tell me what you see ( anybody look kinda young) i know for a fact that one of my friends got into the drum club with a bribe. Also unfortunately i am not a promoter though if i was i would be doing things allot differently to what drum club are doing. I wonder how many people out their who bought a drum club membership thought they got a good deal. The drum club is interested in one thing only making money and i just hope they realize their mistake and learn from this experience

Actually I stood in the line with my friends for a while.
It sucked, but you seem to be unable to understand the explination as to why there was a line.

In regards to the bribe thing, I'm still laughing. Fake I.D is one thing. A $10 bribe is another.

The Drum Club is ideally a business operation.
It would be lovely to live in happy raver land and put on fantastic parties and bring over great international Dj's and do it just for the love, but if you want to do more than 1 party and send yourself bankrupt, then you've got to make money.
That doesn't necesarilly mean you aren't doing it for the love of the music or the scene. It means you have commonsense and want to keep putting on events.

I hardly think last night had enough negative aspects to warrant half of your comments, especially resorting to childish slander of the promoters because a few dodgy people decided to rort the system.

[certanstyle]

I have to say me piece again. Look even if there were fake tickets it wasn't dealt with well. As said before it is a fair whinge to say that we missed Mickey Finn, paid good money for the ticket, were not given an explanation. Sitting in line asking what the problem was and being spoken to like shit.
If there is a problem deal with it. Don't just leave everyone sitting in line waiting. No apology on the door as we finally got in. An option for a refund would have been good. It was really badly dealt with and irregardless of whether it was oversold or forgery's we were all left in the lurch. Like I said we finally got in and it was too hot and then there were fights. In the end we gave up and went home.
All this talk about teething problems and what not is just rubbish. Drum Club run a club every week and should be organised and should know how to deal with these things.
I just feel really ripped off. I probably can't afford to go to Blackout now and had I know it was going to be like it was I never would have bought a ticket. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[mocha]

Well... the night was ram fuckin jam. Everyone went off (apparantely some guys went off too much and tried to fight?!?) and everyone enjoyed the beats played. Great set by Micky Finn and I only caught the last few Hardcore tracks in the second room but they were going off.
Just a little bit too hot in the main room, good night overall though, totally different look to the Bridge Theatre compared to Lost the Plot 2. Werd to anyone who I stumbled into over the night, hope to see you all at Blackout 2.

[kranky al]

im not knocking as i wasnt there - dc 1st all ages event- sunne- raggabone were putting on all ages stuff when you were still in primary skool

[akira]

Well seeing as this has turned into a thread for people to gripe at the Drum Club, I'm going to have a whinge as well.

But first, Adam and lysergic, thanks for the kind words. It's the biggest buzz to look over the floor and see people smiling and getting lost in the music. I've got something special planned for Blackout.

Now the whinge...the dj setup in the second room was crap. The eq's on the mixing desk weren't working at all which makes it really hard to mix. The monitor speaker was too soft and there didn't seem to be any way of turning it up - and it was emmitting a loud popping sound for most of my set so I'm glad I never did discover how to make it louder. I'm also yet to see the wisdom in putting all the speakers on one side of the room towards the back.

Thirdly, I was never paid as promised. I hate having to be a cunt but if I am ignored again over this issue then I'm going to have to take things further myself, which I don't want to do but will. I'm sorry this issue has to be raised on a public board but as the girl in charge of this ignored me when I tried to raise the subject with her I don't have any other option.

[Angelica]

Bit late with my post, but I just thought I'd say I had an excellent nite, although I had a shockin headache too, like may others by the sounds of it.

Loved Mickey Finn's set and elhornet at the end!
Well done to all involved http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[shekoala]

damm and i got so much to sayyyyyyy..... but being *ahem* diplomatic (why do i have so much trouble with that word???)... ill save it all for my review, ill post a link if anyone wants to read it... some funny, sad and just plain rude stories will be included! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif Overall... i had a great nite http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif didnt see any fights inside.. saw one up the road unfortunatley but i cant say if that was related to the rave.. i dont think so.

I read a few others were spose to have their names on the door? Likewise, only to be told "nope" your not on here.. next?? huh scuse me.. "shows her photo id from the company i write for".... nope.. next.... fortunatley the promoter was called & came straight down and let me in... grrrrrrrr great start when your writting a review huh? lol (i will add that the promoter was called and 2 minutes later i was walking in.. drama free... thanks!!! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif)

should have pics of the night also up by tommorrow, fingers crossed i got some mad pics..... *laughs @ herself as the memory fades back in at some of the pics taken*. Oh to the 9 year old up the front while Mickey was playing who "TOLD ME TO MOVE OUT HIS WAY SO HE COULD DANCE*....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL... opps fell of my chair laughin then!!!..... (shite cant even say grow up!).. lol... erm... pick on someone your own size!!!... mwahahahahahahaha.... read the review for the full story.. funny shit i tell ya! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

soz i missed the meetup AGAINNNNNNNNNNN but i ran into a few peeps i already know, my pics up on the ravenstein thread to those who dont know me, throw something and call me bitch if you see me out... im not as scarey as i look...http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

later http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

[i]

Sappy - Just coz YOU got fucked around, it doesn't mean the whole event was shit.

Sure, I had to wait in line for around 3/4 of an hour with RandomLogik, but I'm not gunna cry over it. Drum Club may not have done EVERYTHING perfect, but IMHO they did a pretty fuckin good job. Forged tickets happen. Get over it. This time there appeared to be a fair few of them tho. I know the 2 tickets i bought were real coz one of them came from an MC and another from a trusted friend - At the Innerscape party i went to before MF, they both showed up fine up under the blacklights. And if you're having such a shit time - do the people who are enjoying themselves a big favour and FUCK OFF AND GO HOME. We don't want to hear you whinge, we go for a good time.

I say congrats to the drum club for a good event, congrats to most of the people there for keepin it real and congrats to the DJ's (and MCs) for the awesome entertainment!

[medwin]

Quote from akira, posted on 19-11-2001 07:13

Thirdly, I was never paid as promised. I hate having to be a cunt but if I am ignored again over this issue then I'm going to have to take things further myself, which I don't want to do but will. I'm sorry this issue has to be raised on a public board but as the girl in charge of this ignored me when I tried to raise the subject with her I don't have any other option.

I would suggest that seeking some legal advice on this matter maybe a good idea. I know its a bit of a fuck around but it might be a good way to get the message across. After all, actions do speak louder than words (most of the time)

[Rico]

I can't wait to start my review.

[Adam Brown]

Steady on there markus, he did say that Mickey Finn was great, the only complaint he had was that it was oversold, i don't think he mentioned anything INSIDE the event causing any discomfort

Adam will make it better *hugs mark*

[RandomLogik]

for me, the problem wasn't the fact of actually waiting outside for so long - it was the rude service of the security and no information as to why we were outside (yes i understand now, but it would have been nice to have been told on the night) There are many people in that line who don't go on teknoscape and you should have heard all the rumours as to why we weren't let in - put it this way drum club definately wouldn't be in their good books

I had actually had a really good night, and this event would have to be in my top list of the year. Luckily the vibe there made a big impact on my night, haha and the set of hardcore http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

If the reason is dodgy tickets, then it would be nice for an official response on the issue, .. drum club ?

Elhornet i doubt you would be standing outside very long, with a VIP pass and all ?

good luck with the next event, just take a little more precautions and your on your way with an even more decent event http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[hitmonlee]

well fake tickets is nothing new. and there definitely were fakes.

still angry about the fights, as the bruise on my hip is pretty fucking massive. grrr.

bit annoyed as i went to see mickey finn, but couldn't stand the heat, or the crowding, so spent most of my night in the other room. which i enjoyed heaps. woulda been cool if there was a few more people dancing in there.

didn't go to themeetup. had no idea what time i got there, or what the time was all night. i did see rico alot, and met adam brown, and saw i few others i already knew (h4rdst3pp4, freedom)

was an okay night, but i would much prefer to see mickey finn in a smaller club (like players or stadium)

[hitmonlee]

and remember - never try to be nice to a security guard.

my boyfriend tried to exchange some of his chips for their pizza and they were complete fuckwits.

fucking cunts.

someone tell me what was happening in the chicks toilets? i went once and it was packed, so i left, the next time it was completely empty. what are you guys talking about?

[kool chip]

only went for an hour , sounds like they dragged the crappy drum club sound system down the road (won't be going to there new years gig) who played the new remix of space invader that rocked!!!!!!!!!!! why didnt krank play???[QUOTE]who killed happy hardcore???

[dave]

Quote from hitmonlee, posted on 19-11-2001 12:48

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bit annoyed as i went to see mickey finn, but couldn't stand the heat, or the crowding, so spent most of my night in the other room. which i enjoyed heaps. woulda been cool if there was a few more people dancing in there.

was an okay night, but i would much prefer to see mickey finn in a smaller club (like players or stadium)

smaller club means more crowding
go figure

[HERETIK]

uhh krank wasnt even on the flyer.

kool chip, you might have had to go into the middle of the dancefloor to hear properly....
seeing as the speakers were positioned for the middle
of the dancefloor and all.

open your eyes people, blindness gets you nowhere.

[K Babey]

Some knob end was letting off stink bombs in the dnb room, that shit was stinky as a mofo http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[RandomLogik]

lol i heard on the night something about a chick in the toilets. about a comp to win a kiss or something ? cos she needed money.

please explain ??!!

i'm wondering how much self respect this girl has.

[RandomLogik]

Quote from K Babey, posted on 19-11-2001 13:06

Some knob end was letting off stink bombs in the dnb room, that shit was stinky as a mofo http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/sad.gif

why in the world would someone want to do that ?!? - dense head i tell ya http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

[K Babey]

Quote from RandomLogik, posted on 19-11-2001 13:08

lol i heard on the night something about a chick in the toilets. about a comp to win a kiss or something ? cos she needed money.

please explain ??!!

i'm wondering how much self respect this girl has.

lol, no doubt we will see that same girl gracing the streets of Northbridge in a few years to come selling her body to support her smack habbit or just to get $2.

[flaunt]

didnt go, and after reading these posts glad i kept my $$!!
hope DC get their act together before NYE, and by the sound of it they need a different security crew!! Hire Dom & the lads who were @ Ravenstein!!
Security should be tight but polite!! Midgets with ponytails... bwahaha!
drove past bridge theatre at about 11ish and saw a big heap of 13-15 year olds (if they were even that old..) - were there heaps of real young'uns that night or were my beer goggles deceiving me?

[hitmonlee]

Quote from dave, posted on 19-11-2001 13:01

Quote from hitmonlee, posted on 19-11-2001 12:48
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bit annoyed as i went to see mickey finn, but couldn't stand the heat, or the crowding, so spent most of my night in the other room. which i enjoyed heaps. woulda been cool if there was a few more people dancing in there.

was an okay night, but i would much prefer to see mickey finn in a smaller club (like players or stadium)

smaller club means more crowding
go figure

um, no as they would sell less tickets.

dickhead.

[RandomLogik]

i actually thought there were less youngsters this time. And the majority of the younger ones there were sensible (well most) if you want to see young - you should have gone to after forever, that was some baaaaaadd shit http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[dave]

ahahahahhahah http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Adam Brown]

I didn't see the fights, but it would have been amusing to watch a bunch of angry junglists duking it out, I would have doused them with petrol and set them on fire for a bit of added spice.

"Furious George, what have they done?"

[GoAt]

Adam Brown Posted on 19-11-2001 13:58
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I didn't see the fights, but it would have been amusing to watch a bunch of angry junglists duking it out, I would have doused them with petrol and set them on fire for a bit of added spice.

"Furious George, what have they done?"

Actually i saw with vapours when the fight first started, it was during your psyco 1 million beats per second hardcore.. (i have no problem with that music) so it wasnt angry junglist! they just wanted to finish what was already started http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/tounge.gif~

anyway its was ok.. and the bouncers got bribed $15 actually... unfortuantly i know the person that did it :{ .. and he only sold 3 tickets!@#@ for $5 each! so that over crowding problem i dont know about... maybe too many tickets sold or more people were selling fake tickets i dunno...

my suggestion is that u do that UV thing on the tickets then you will catch them out....

[RandomLogik]

with the $15, are you talking about the actual club ?

so you know the person who sold the dodgy tickets ?
only 3 eh ? hmmmm

[Rico]

what did they pay the bouncer to do? turn a blind eye?
what the?
WHO had the fake tickets?

[hitmonlee]

maybe more than one person wasmaking fake tickets
anyone remember madhatter's '99?
there were heaps of fakes there - all done by different people. i only waited in line for 2 hours.
and at millenium there were lots of fakes - also done by a few different people.

[GoAt]

yeah 2 bouncers grabed him and they ask him what are they ganna give them and he said "i dunno $15 its all ive got"

[RandomLogik]

the bouncers grabbed the guy who was selling tix ?
and let him go for $15 !!!

$15 ain't worth standing out in the cold for 45 minutes, listening to mickey's sounds through the walls . http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[i]

Yeah...

let's get 'em!

pics (http://suc.cx/eyes/thenextlevel) are up... we got 90 keepers!

[RandomLogik]

haha the first photo is me http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

check out the meetup photo.

Osiris, Dakaktus, Madhatter, me, Stealth, jazza (?)
wheres i ?

i like the photo of us two lol http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[hitmonlee]

i'm a bit concerned about kylie - looks like she has a black eye (see photo jo&kylie)

this has got to be the funniest shit
http://suc.cx/eyes/thenextlevel/images/kandykids2.jpg

[RandomLogik]

WHOAH jesus !

[Adam Brown]

bahahaha look at that guy's tongue ring, what a psycho kunt

[RandomLogik]

hey i , put up the meetup photo.

i don't know how to do it http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[RandomLogik]

i was more spun out by the girl on the right http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[Adam Brown]

that was the joke http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[hitmonlee]

oh, and in the photo of loreta, next to her is my boyfriend http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[RandomLogik]

Quote from Adam Brown, posted on 19-11-2001 16:41

that was the joke http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/sad.gif

ahahahahahehehehhahahahah hahaha hahaa.. haha.. hah .. ha ..ha ...... *god i'm stupid*

[akira]

Quote from medwin, posted on 19-11-2001 11:46

Quote from akira, posted on 19-11-2001 07:13
Thirdly, I was never paid as promised. I hate having to be a cunt but if I am ignored again over this issue then I'm going to have to take things further myself, which I don't want to do but will. I'm sorry this issue has to be raised on a public board but as the girl in charge of this ignored me when I tried to raise the subject with her I don't have any other option.

I would suggest that seeking some legal advice on this matter maybe a good idea. I know its a bit of a fuck around but it might be a good way to get the message across. After all, actions do speak louder than words (most of the time)

Thanks for the advice Medwin, I'm going to..it's a real fucking shame but I'm not going to be fucked over. If they'd wanted me to spin for free, all they had to do was ask and it wouldn't have been a problem but as payment was promised beforehand and the girl never showed up when she was meant to and has ignored me ever since then I don't have any other choice.

[dokta phat]

even with all the fuk ups im still pissed i didnt go, ah well blackout here we come eh http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[i]

Quote from RandomLogik, posted on 19-11-2001 16:18
haha the first photo is me http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wow.gif

check out the meetup photo.

Osiris, Dakaktus, Madhatter, me, Stealth, jazza, wheres i ?

i like the photo of us two lol http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

http://suc.cx/eyes/thenextlevel/images/teknoscapemeetup.jpg

yeah i like the photo of u n me too http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

im not in the teknoscape meetup foto coz i took it http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif but right after that i took the foto of u n me, so i did make it in there http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

feel somewhat outnumbered in that foto anna? http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

I have a foto of medwin on there somewhere too...

browny managed to escape the camera that nite - but i got him at ravenstein - you'll never be able to hide from me adam - NEVER!

[nigel]

My god, some of you fucking suck sometimes.

Randomlogik: Read my again post about the line, and why I stood in it. Because my friends were in there and I thought I'd be nice and keep them company. There were no VIP tags either.

Akira: The EQ's on the RANE mixer work beautifully when you push the button down that says 'enable eq'.
In regards to not being paid, I think you should possibly grow a shred of professionalism. Did you stop to think about the fact that today is MONDAY, and the event was only 2 days ago? Whoever mentioned legal action needs to locate a brain.
I really do hope you have provided an invoice quoting your ABN, or a hobby form, to Brett or the Raggabone management. It would seem like that would be the sensible thing to do rather than complaining about it on the internet like a child. If you've done this, then I'm sure your money will be given to you within 7 days, as is the case with most parties.

In regards to Mickey Finn being better at somewhere smaller and 18+, last year at Geisha was twice (if not three times) as packed as The Next Level, and it was utterly shit in comparison to Saturday.

Someone else said the fuckups on the weekend were totally inexcusable as the Raggabone people run a club every week and blah blah blah.
Unfortunately an all ages party in a non club venue is slightly different to a club night and involves alot more things.

I think some of you need to either think before you speak, or realise that you are blowing things totally out of proportion.

[zara]

Well that tic thingey sounds fuckin bad but I had a great night!I wasn't even plannin of goin but free tic is a free tic..http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif...I didn't make it to the meetup cos didn't see any signs..(got ur mssg too late Martin..http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif..)..but I heard it was good..http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif..I was most of the time in the hardcore room and it was very good...http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif...but who the hell was that idiot who played fuckin gabber?!bwahahahaa!http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif :b..Thanks for everyone who made my night once again soooo good!!u know who u r..http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif..
Now I'm just sooooooo tired!!http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[weez]

there were only a few little dodgy things that fuked up the nite..but still was one of my favs..

i think i saw 2 fights that nearly broke out on the dnb floor..
one when it all ended(unfortunately which pissed me off bad! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif ) and one where i think it was over throwing water over everyone which i dont really understand myself but i dont really care either..doesnt bother me

did anyone happen 2 film any footage?...
i totally forgot bout it in the nite..+ i couldnt be fuked

[akira]

Paul, thanks for your reply..I always look forward to hearing from such an informed person such as yourself.

I pushed the button that said 'enable eq', the eqs didn't work. I pushed it again, it didn't work. The two djs before me also said "the eq's are a bit off and on'. The eqs weren't working...at least give me some credit.

In regards to your comments regarding payment - I admit that they are a bit out of order BUT I wouldn't be mad except for one thing...

I arranged to meet said girl @ Rosemount at the Hardline night, she didn't turn up. I thought little of it but then I noteoped her the next day and she ignored it. I have spoken to her via sms on Saturday night regarding set times but nothing was said about it then either. That's my main gripe. Like you can gain from my post I don't mind playing for free. It's just the fact that she ignored me. Even the orgainser has responded to other complaints in a seperate thread, but failed to address mine.

Regarding the invoice I'm going to drop one off at the drum club on friday if I'm in Perth.

Oh and I'm not sure if you were aware or not but the arrangement was I was going to be paid in tickets...what good are tickets after the event?

Btw what did you think of Finns set?

[rebecca muller]

I've never heard so much whinging about one rave in my whole life!! It was 6 or 7 hours of your whole life. GET OVER IT!! What would you have done 10 years ago raving in a dirty warehouse? "oh my god...my new white hipster pants are getting dirty!!"

[D4Kaktus]

too true, i thought the night was pretty good regardless, and i wasnt the most relaxed/non-stressed person around for most of the night either.

*points at you all*
admit it, you liked it, didnt you http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[certanstyle]

Look El Hornet I made those statements on here out of complete frustration. I had a terrible night, got ignored when I tried to get it fixed on the night so what else am I supposed to do. It is everyones right to express an opinion. In the last 6 months that I have been looking at this site you have written heaps of praise and negative things about gigs and DJs and clubs as well and I never considered it whinging I accepted that you had strong feelings and expressed them.
The night is gone for me and my friends and i just want the people concerned to think about that and fix it up for next time. In the last year that me and my friends have been going out we have been to 5 events and we have never had problems like Saturday night. If they read these comments and see that people were angry enough like me and my friends then make sure it doesnt happen again. I don't want other people to have a night like we did.

[i]

certanstyle: you most certainly are entitled to your own opinion... However I fully agree with El Hornet... He does post negative and positive feedback about events - BUT - he presents it in an unbiased and neutral manner - ie, not just whinging and bitching at the drum club and telling them to fix up there act, etc.

And I don't think i've seen anyone actually attempt to start a rebellion against a promoter before either...

[weez]

whos who on the teknoscape meetup pic?
i know RL and Madhatter..
i managed 2 miss it http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[RandomLogik]

haha yeah i - i do feel a little left out, at the AF meetup, i didn't meet any girls either, actually the only girls i've met off here are shesgotone and a girl who doesn't post much on here (sorry i've forgotten who you are).

yeah i seen the photo of you and medwin, 2 such cool people http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

elhornet, my words on the VIP pass was actually a question, i would have thought since you were a dj and all there would have been "VIP" passes, if i suck over that .. then fucking shoot me http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif
and actually in the hardcore room there was technical problems, anyone who was in there for the hardcore round about the time someone played hear me by slipmatt, would know what i'm talking about. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

[RandomLogik]

weez : the meetup photo - osiris, dakaktus, madhatter, me, stealth and jazza (?)

[RandomLogik]

Quote from i, posted on 19-11-2001 19:21

he presents it in an unbiased and neutral manner - ie, not just whinging and bitching at the drum club and telling them to fix up there act, etc.

might have something to do with being a resident there http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
lol only joking paul http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif
i think drum club put on good nights, they support the dnb scene very well and next time these problems won't happen as they are looking into it.

Understanding that this is their first party (well for a while), things will go wrong. i'm sure any promoter can speak for this. hell if it were my event it would be a lot worse http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif i think the security was a bigger problem than the actual lining up itself.

[nigel]

Quote from rebecca muller, posted on 19-11-2001 19:09

What would you have done 10 years ago raving in a dirty warehouse? "oh my god...my new white hipster pants are getting dirty!!"

This is what I have been thinking the whole time.

Akira - talk to Brett. Fucked if I know why you had to deal with the person you did. That won't be happening again if I have anything to do with it.

[akira]

Yeah I will, seriously - thanks for the advice.

Just out of interest this is the reply I just got sent to me from the girl..

"You are lucky to be playing at all, so SORRY for getting u a set u ungratefull hippy."

[RandomLogik]

i don't think the venue is what was bothering people.
hell i'd love to have an old warehouse venue, berlin was a great venue along with the ravenstein warehouse.

the reason why people are pissed is because they payed money to see an international, and failed to do so.
the situation has been explained - i understand it and like i's post, got over it .. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[nigel]

How lame.

Certanstyle : I honestly doubt any of the things that went wrong on Saturday night will happen again.

[weez]

i say it was a fukin good event 4 the drum club's 1st all ages..

i hear dark soldier was played?http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gifhttp://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif? that evil fukin tune
and the dub of original nuttah?!!!! i luv the bassline of that tune........mmmmmmmmmmmm
too bad i was outside

[richw]

Quote from i, posted on 19-11-2001 19:21

certanstyle: you most certainly are entitled to your own opinion... However I fully agree with El Hornet... He does post negative and positive feedback about events - BUT - he presents it in an unbiased and neutral manner - ie, not just whinging and bitching at the drum club and telling them to fix up there act, etc.

I dont think ANYONE with active involvement in the scene can post in a neutral and unbiased manner. Everything has potential political ramifications.

Really only someone with no aspirations to be DJ, no allegiances to any promoter, goes to and enjoys both 18+ and all ager events could have a "neutral and unbiased" opinion. You are naive to think otherwise.

However people can present intelligent well thought out critiques of an event.... well its possible in theory, but rarely demonstrated. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Versetyle]

Well I just think that no matter what, people are going to find something to whinge about, I mean ... we finally get a hardcore room at a big all-ages party and then people whinge about the moniters or the set up or something ... just fucking accept whats there for what it is and make the most of it ! I had a great time playing in da hardcore room, there's nothing better than to see a crowd of ravers going off to hardcore IMO http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[nigel]

Heh. Rich is right. I might be biased sometimes, but at least when something is shit, I'll say it is.

Perhaps I should just say nothing at all on here.

[akira]

I love having to defend my speech

*groan*

Mate the reason I brought that up was for one reason...raves are all about the dancers. If a piece of equipment isn't working properly, ultimately they're the ones that are going to be worse off because of it.

[richw]

Quote from Elhornet, posted on 19-11-2001 20:41
Heh. Rich is right. I might be biased sometimes, but at least when something is shit, I'll say it is.

Perhaps I should just say nothing at all on here.

Oh we wish paul http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif

But seriously honest opinions from anyone and everyone is good. Just dont forget everyone represents something, and an opinion is always subjective!!!

ahhh i gotta stop reading this media studies book...

[Versetyle]

Akira, if that was aimed at me then I was'nt having a go at you mate, just an observation in general, I probably had a whing to ! It just shits me that people in general are never satisfied you know what I mean ? Anyway I'm also just dark cuz I'm at work and had a crazy weekend. Sorry if my post came accross tha wrong way. If that message was'nt directed at me then disregard this one.

[RandomLogik]

Quote from Versetyle, posted on 19-11-2001 20:35

I mean ... we finally get a hardcore room at a big all-ages party and then people whinge about the moniters or the set up or something ... just fucking accept whats there for what it is and make the most of it !

people are paying for the music, that's what brings them there centrally, of course they expect quality sound

[akira]

Hey it wouldn't bother me if you were - I see where you're coming from. Seems like every event there's always people whinging. I think that's a Perth thing though.

Drum Club has explained things to me, which has at least helped me to understand why some things were the way they were. I think the main factors were time and expense (how much do you think Finn costs?) and from what I understand they did a good job considering all the different factors they had to deal with. Nothing at an event is ever going to be perfect and I accepted this a long long time ago. Just on a side note my problem with payment was with the girl who was organising it all, and not in any way with drum club - I've since cleared this up too.

[Versetyle]

Random - so if it were a choice of a hardcore room like it was or no hardcore room ... which would u choose ? All I'm saying is, being negative does'nt get anybody anywhare I mean a promoter could do heaps of good things for a party which will go unmentioned BUT the moment there's a fuckup ... people want blood, all I'm trying to say is ... way up the good and the bad ie ... the moniters were'nt the best but hey at least we had moniters ... or the sound system was'nt as good as the one in the main room BUT it was good enough and everyone had a good time by the looks of things ! I could go on forever but I'm starting to go off on tangents ! Do you understand where I'm coming from ?

[akira]

Word...the vibe in that room the entire night was fucking wicked

[RandomLogik]

i do understand where your coming from. I was thrilled that there was hardcore, that comment wasn't a personal one. it was a general comment, but i must have taken your post the wrong way, what i was getting at was that the music is the main reason people go, so naturally it should be the priority.
i understand your point now and i agree. perth was lucky to have the hardcore and i much appreciate it http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Versetyle]

Exactly ... and yeh akira - the vibe was excellent hey, thats what I mean, we dont need fancy shit to make the night good,
its the music and the people that make a night good ! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[RandomLogik]

http://www.suc.cx/eyes/thenextlevel/images/randoms3.jpg

Gurner http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[NRG]

Fuckin hell, I was there from 10:30 on and didn't see anything. I didn't leave so didn't have trouble with the tickets, didn't see the fights, though I was there for a couple of the sound problems in the hardcore room. Didn't have a headache either. I was a little put out by the early finishing time, but what you gonna do? When the venue owner's being a bastard thats that. It was just awkward cos the guys I went with left early and I had to catch a taxi by myself or wait an hour and a half for a train. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif


what the f**k was with the chicks in the toilets. oh well i got a kiss out of em

You must have been number ten? Lucky sod! I was 3 AND 11 & I didn't get one!


hehehehe, I was number 20, so got me a hug. WOOHOO! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/tounge.gif

All in all I thought this was a ripper of a night. The hardcore room rocked the casbah something chronic. It really psyched up the crowd and it wasnt overly crowded so you could go mental. The d'n'b room was wicked too, but I spent most of my non-Mickey time in the the 2nd room. Big ups to the happy hard boys and Quimby for playing a fine trancecore set to bring in the morning. The d'n'b room was hot, but I didn't think it was overly bad. I mean any time theres a good 500 people dancing in a confined space theres bound to be a bit of heat. I felt like I musta sweated 3 kilos while I was there though. Pity I missed the TS meet-up, I'm bloody curious as to what you people look like. Anyway all in all this was a fucking top notch night and I had myself an absolute blinder. Good to see the Drum Club intend to do more all ages in the future. Anyway, hopefully I'll see you all at Blackout. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[ZaNDa]

hahaha,

RL: That gurner pic is the funniest ever!
Somewhere there's a mum and dad that need to see that photo http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Didnt go to MF but Im spewn about it. Im a slut for Mickey.

RL: think that girl you're talking about (from AF meetup was bliss)

[bix]

I personally thought it was a brilliant night, thanks to everyone who made it so great (as always).

Just a few new photos are now up at http://www.influencez.com/photos/nextlevel.php

[smurf]

In Regards to sound:

The sound system at The Next Level was the Hawk Pro Audio Turbosound system. The same system as used at Lost the Plot 2, except divided into 2 seperate send to cater for the two room layout. The spakers up the side was a logistical thing, although yes it does ruin any stereo imaging that may be present. In general, the Turbosound cabinets are better for rock music, unless you are using TSE111 cabinets for your top end, which are perfectly suited fro dance music in my opinion. Unfortunatly, the Hawk system is comprised of TMS4s. (Just a note for those interested, the designer of the TMS4 changed job soon after, and moved to head designer at JBL, hence the JBL AP25s are exactly the same as the TMS4, JBL was sued and forced to pay to Turbosound the retail cost of every AP25 sold.) I agree the system wasnt huge, but for a room of that size, the levels should have been adequate. (Note: Headaches?) The monitors were powered Turbo cabs if I remember correctly - I personally never use powered cabinets for commercial events as I find they tend to overheat, distort, and generally not sound as good due to a lack of enclusure volume. On that note I will add the Turbosound powered cabs are probably the best powered unit on the market. I would use powered speakers for small private partied with a low level, not to rinse out the dj booth.

In Regards to lighting:

The lighting system was not state of the art, but lighting is not cheap. Give them a break.

Good or bad, either way, put it behind you, it is now firmly in the past and is not coming back. If you lost money on your ticket then write it off, these things happen. I was disappointed to miss the dj that played the first jungle mix-tape I ever heard, but such is life, and you cant always get what you want. I do agree you should get what you pay for - but if you dont, and it is not the promoters fault, then dont take it out on the promoters, Drumclub or raggabone.

Also in regards to the venue owner:

Dave, who runs the bridge theatre, has every right to shut down an event early. It is his legal obligation to ensure compliance with the venue capacity laws - otherwise he could stand to lose a lot of money, and lose venue licences, insurance, etc. Dave is one of the nicest guys in the venue "industry", and is only trying to keep things legit. If you owned a house you wouldnt want it destroyed, and if it were destroyed you would want to hope like all buggery that your insurance still stands. No different with a venue, or anything for that matter. Use your brains here people, realise that Dave is only doing his job, and trying to make a living - aren't we all? I hope the Bridge Theater gets used for such events again, as it is the next best thing to the Swan Barracks, and at a fraction of the cost. I am almost certain though, that Dave will not be as enthusiatic.

Just my two cents.
And if you are wondering about sound lighting and visuals, please email me.


Regards,
Mark.

[imperator]

haha nice one mr. brown "Furious George! what have they done to your beautiful face? Smithers, this monkey is going to need most of your skin."

good post too smurf, you've gotta see things from the venue's point of view. they have a limit on the amount of people for legal reasons, such as fire safety and stuff. if they get caught breaking it then there will be huge problems and will probably think twice before hiring it out again. my first rave was in the bridge theatre and i thought it was a great venue, and i'd like to be able to go there in the future http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

anyway, first of all i wasn't actually there (for a variety of reasons:( but from what i've been reading there were good & bad experiences. i think the people you should be blaming are those that were selling fake tickets, starting fights, etc. and were ruining it for everybody else. i'm pretty sure the promoters and venue owner were just as pissed off about it as the rest of you were - and that probably explains why they were in a bad mood. In hindsight there may have been things they could have done better, but organising an event like this takes a helluva lot of effort so they deserve some respect. all ages events are becoming a bit of a rarity (with promoters like delerium doing only 18+ gigs) so its probably a good idea to encourage the people organising them or you might not end up with any at all. i think they drum club will have second thoughts before doing another all ages event.

putting all that aside - a lot of the people i talked to had a fantastic time, so hopefully you'll all remember the good parts of it.... i think maybe everybody should have just calmed down and had a group hug - http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif LoL

[mercedes]

Quote from RandomLogik, posted on 19-11-2001 19:31

haha yeah i - i do feel a little left out, at the AF meetup, i didn't meet any girls either, actually the only girls i've met off here are shesgotone and a girl who doesn't post much on here (sorry i've forgotten who you are).

lol
that girl was me!lol i did used to post under the name of shesgotone aswell (same computer) but it got too confusing, so i changed.
that's a problem with this new set up, ya have to log out and log in, before ya could just change users without as much hassle
not that it its much hassle or anything...just takes longer with a slow computer http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

[madhatter]

i had a wicked time but wasnt happy jan being stuck out for a while!

[smurf]

well said imperator

About delirium putting on all ages events, I have spoken with Jeremy about that, and he says he is avoiding clashing with dan, jamie, tim, and all the other all ages promoters, and does not want to get in the way of them.

Mark.

[hitmonlee]

Quote from Elhornet, posted on 19-11-2001 18:43

In regards to Mickey Finn being better at somewhere smaller, last year at Geisha was twice (if not three times) as packed as The Next Level, and it was utterly shit in comparison to Saturday.

sorry, gotta disagreee there.
i could dance at mickey finn last year - there was room, i could actually see mickey finn as well

and i never said it had to be at geisha.... i was thinking more along the lines of aphrodite at gilkinsons in 99, room to move.

[hitmonlee]

Quote from RandomLogik, posted on 19-11-2001 19:31

haha yeah i - i do feel a little left out, at the AF meetup, i didn't meet any girls either, actually the only girls i've met off here are shesgotone and a girl who doesn't post much on here (sorry i've forgotten who you are).

hey anna - you've met me! or would you rather forget http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif

[RandomLogik]

haha yeah hitmon i've met you http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif @ moving fusion
i was actually referring to the meetups, i realized that after i posted it http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif