another stupid reason question

[RUFFKNITE]

is it possible to use an external hardware device such as a synth in reason via::

1 creating a new sequencer track then,
2 selecting a midi channel and suitable bus,
3 and finall setting the midi channel to mixer 1???

is this possible or is ther another way.

I would try but i dont currently have a keyboard.

another way i thought maybe to have a patch bay and tyehn selecting appriate channels????

[White Trash]

Hi,

You cannot control external MIDI devices via Reason (MIDI out is still the only major missing feature).
The only way get around this is to use some form of Rewire compatible sequencer like Cubase or Ableton LIVE to control both Reason and your external MIDI devices.

Regards,
Mike

[Church Decorator]

what about VST support ? thats a pretty major (lacking) feature

[White Trash]

Yeah that would be nice too, but again you can get around that by Rewire-ing it through Cubase.

You are an angry little man Churchy. I'm amazed that a piece of software was able to kill your parents 'cos thats the only thing I can think of that would make me that mad about something. :)

[Church Decorator]

its just bloody stupid thats all

i regard it with the same distaste as the mc909's etc

it means people who aren't really serious about electronic music can have a go at it for novelty value or try to fake their way into making tracks, i dunno, guess i'm a bit offended by it

but seriously, why would you bother using it , when there's stuff like VST's and sequencers like Cubase?

i'm open minded, if someone gave me some reasons as to why reason is good, well i'd change my whole mind about it

but arguing with reason users is like arguing with christians

[nigel]

I guess sometimes reason is ok if you rewire it into cubase. That redrum synth does some cool shit, but like trav said, why the fuck would you dick about with something that you can only configure so much.

Then again, whatever floats your boat I guess.

[anscenic]

Using reason on its own with no rewire is wack - I cant understand why anyone would limit themselves that much :confused:

however...
that "NN-XT" sampler in Reason 2 was by far the best soft-sampler on the market imo (before Halion 2.0 came out). MUCH better than Kontakt or anything else. maelstrom is pretty cool too.

[RUFFKNITE]

in that case , anybody want to buy a copy of reason coz im getting rid of it!!!!! AhHHHHH if only i had of known this b4!!!

guess that ll teach me not to do full research on it

[Church Decorator]

not to worry , just download a copy of cubase sx off kazaa!

[White Trash]

Sorry dude but your areguments are seriously flawed.

The software is just a tool, as with any instrument. The quality of it's output is limited only by the person using it.
I agree software such as Reason (and Fruityloops or Orion) can make it 'easier' for the Preset Junkies to push out their garbage but I have seen just as many people with 'legit' studio setups push out just as much trash.
If I can get sounds out of Reason (always Rewired becase standalone it is rooted) that I can't get out of any of my NI or Creamware gear then thats what I use.
I'd rather keep an open mind than potentially limit myself, even in the smallest way.

So don't sell it Ruffknite, it may come in handy (or at least keep a backup!!). ;)

[Church Decorator]

no you're missing MY point you tool!

of course it's down to the producer, when did i not say that

i'm just comparing programs for gods sake

if you can get a good price i'd sell it ruffknite, then spend that money on something nice and get cubase sx off kazaa :)

[White Trash]

Church Decorator wrote: "...it means people who aren't really serious about electronic music can have a go at it for novelty value or try to fake their way into making tracks..."

You're not comparing programs at all. You're just making judgments on the apparent quality of the software based on the type of people you think will use it. Thats pretty shallow.

Of course there's a 1001 VSTi's out there. Are they ALL good? Hardly.
Some of those Reason modules are awesome (NN-XT, Vocoder, Malstrom and Redrum specifically), and for those that choose to Rewire it, get access to all of them at a pretty good price - free for some I guess.

Tool?! Hmmm.... :sleepy:

[Church Decorator]

that particular sentence was a dis on reason of course ....

but i've compared it ..... no VST support VS VST support ... no MIDI support VS MIDI support ..... etc etc it's just so simple ....

if you rewire it then fine, but it's a lot of trouble to go to just for a few of extra bits of "kit" , when there are so many VSTs out there

of course they're not all good, but there are a SHITLOAD more good VSTs out there than machines in Reason ..

so, again, why bother?

[nigel]

what he said

[White Trash]

Yawn...
:sarcasm:

[nigel]

I guess if all you've tried is reason itself then you wouldn't know any better..

[White Trash]

That may be true but why would anyone limit themselves to that though? I don't think anyone here is recommending Reason as a one stop solution.

[Church Decorator]

i'm not sure if i should bother replying .. are you going to reply properly or just post another pointless "yawn" ?

anyhow i'm going to anyway , because i like torturing myself

Why would you use Reason ? I mean why go to the bother of loading it up just for a few bits of gear that I'm sure you could find VST equivalents of, no worries? Would it REALLY make a difference?

I bet people that start with stand-alone Reason, then progress to rewiring it into Cubase eventually realise how pointless it is, and use Cubase standalone.

[White Trash]

Look Churchy, I've really got nothing more to offer you.
I've lost interest in attempting proper conversation with someone that can only offer me vitriol and ill-informed opinion.

My music is about creativity, not software. This really doesn't matter that much to me.

Good luck with your hardcore.

[Church Decorator]

haha nice COP OUT mate