ELYSIUM

[EasyTiger]

Right i thought it's about time that members of this board had somewhere to talk about Elysium....

Unless you didnt already know, Elysium is held at the Drum Club/Gravity venue and happens on the first friday of every month.

The next Elysium is 6th Jul 01.

So What you might say.....Well, July's Elysium will be the LAST hardcore set anyone can hear from one of Perths most favourite DJs DJ KEV. So Get down there and pay your due's if anyones deserves it - its Kev. Those who know him, will know just how much he's given the scene and how much passion, blood sweat and tears he's put in.

Also DJ Menis off to the UK for while. so it's last set from him too. But he'll be back for sure bigger and better than ever.

Nice One!

[Versetyle]

Yeah every one buy kev a beer as soon as u see him to show ur appreciation we can call it the " kev's leaving us so lets make him remember his last set in perth, well we hope he'll be able to remember in the morning hehe " fund !!! http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif



(Edited by Versetyle at 8:19 pm on June 28, 2001)

[Adam Brown]

Why is this Kev's last hardcore set?

Surly if someone offered to book him at an all-ages event to play hardcore he wouldn't turn it down?

Whats going on?

[Versetyle]

He's moving 2 ireland dude.

[tuan]

that seriously is a downer. i had no idea he was leaving, why is he leaving us? Never knew him personally but he was just so wicked to have go mental behind the decks. bummer hey http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[bung]

fuck me drunk, that means 3/4 of the hardcore scene left in perth.. what r u guys gonna do..... i know, all start listening and playing hardhouse

[jmac]

fuck you scrotumhead, i dont like hardcore but it has its crew and tere is enough blinkered nobheads around anyway, live and let live

[nigel]

It will be a shame to see Kev go.

I'll be there to buy the man a lager.

[jamie]

yeh i'll be there to personally make sure Kev is disgustingly pissed hehe http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[EasyTiger]

i know this topic is supposed to be about elysium and that ...but wanna say hats of to the boy Versetyle for putting on wikid night at the Rosemount last night.

It was excellent to see ALL the old hardcore crew under the same roof.

Note the presence of Splinky & Corruption !!!! and. ... Freestyle playing HARDCORE ! & The skratch masta Sniper too !!!

Nice one Olly
See Y'all on 6th Jul NEXT ELYSIUM

[xxxx]

so will kev be playing hardcore or uk happy hardcore?

[Pinhead]

it's the same thing idiot.. uk happy hardcore is 100% true hardcore. respekt to kev for playing the hardcore choons

[Versetyle]

Yeah bigup to everyone who came down to tha rosemount on saturday night & all the dj's who all played wickid sets and kev for just being... kev (shout out to tha bar girl) hehe http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

You can catch the one like tha SNIPER scratching up a storm b2b with LEROY on the 14 of july !!!

See everyone at ELYSIUM on friday for another stormer !

[Pinhead]

hey respekt to versetyle! plur everyone

[Versetyle]

Gee thanks churchie, but for some crazy reason i sense a touch of sarcasm !

[Church Decorator]

that's not very charitable. can't i say anything nice?

[Versetyle]

Yeah man if u meant that comment then cheers ?

(Edited by Versetyle at 6:31 pm on July 2, 2001)

[Adam Brown]

can someone message me Kev's e-mail address? cheers

[EasyTiger]

Well tonights the night....Kevs last set before he pisses off to Ireland. Menis's last set for a bit too ! Also Mr Easy Tiger will be going on Holidays for couple of months ...........So lets fuckin ave it.

New DJs who wanna piece of the pie come gimme a demo. Two extra guest sets avail as of August !!!!

Callin the Hardcore !

[nigel]

I'm down for dropping a set of Napalm Death with a 4/4 kick drum.

Wanna go back to back Churchie?

[Church Decorator]

el hornet, i'd rather go my foot to your ass.

versetyle i was being 100% serious. plur man! keep playin the bangin hardcore choons man.. cheers, and did i say plur? plur. respekt i love you man.

kev will be sorely missed, he was a master at playin tha bangin ardcore plur kev, plur. i love you, i'll miss you. now who will play bangin ardcore for the perth massive ay? plur. cheers

[xxxx]

no big ups?

[Church Decorator]

big ups to tha perth massiv

[RandomLogik]

well this is a side of you we've never seen before.. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[zoombox]

sounds like nearly all the elysium djs have left

(Edited by zoombox at 12:53 pm on July 9, 2001)

[Versetyle]

Yeah double plur to u churchie and a big up aswell !!!

[Church Decorator]

big up your ass

[Versetyle]

Hehe ... keep em coming, I'm very bored at work http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[EasyTiger]

Right ... Its on for young and old.

ELYSIUM...Perths home of hardcore touches down again on 3rd Aug 01. DJ Line up to be posted very soon. Hold tight.

ALSO ... I heard a nasty rumour that people think that the Elysium nights may be changing to a Breaks format... NOT ON YOUR LIFE SONNY JIM. Elysium will always remain a Hardcore orientated event.

So be there on 3rd Aug for some Hardcore Power.

[Church Decorator]

"hardcore power" hahahahahahahahha

you elysium people are worrying

[Versetyle]

Naugh churchie worrying was the look on your mum's face when she realised your dad was her brother ! hahahaha http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[kranky al]

verstyle show a bit of compassion mate you know #### well his mothers his sister theres no need to take the piss- his dads a straight up guy...

[Versetyle]

Yeah ... sorry bout that, I must have got carried away! hehe http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Adam Brown]

Easy Tiger: MORE GABBER PLEASE, slow or fast, just GIMME GIMME GIMME

[kranky al]

thank for helping me out the other day adam, i hope this will help your craving gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber gabber ther ya go mate

(Edited by kranky al at 5:21 pm on July 17, 2001)

[hitmonlee]

you're not easy tiger are you?

[Adam Brown]

hehehehe YAY!!!

[Adam Brown]

ELYSIUM!

TONIGHT!!

HOORAY!!!

[tomgeezer]

can't wait! MC Pete in full effect!

[DIY Lobotomy]

I emailed you Easy Tiger.

No reply? I am hurt.

[EasyTiger]

Hey DIY i didnt get the email dude !!! send it again and i'll reply.

Also...Elysium tonight.... Bring it on.

Line up looks like this ...

The Management - React - Sniper V Subsonic - Magnetic - Versetyle - Rousa

[DIY Lobotomy]

Well here I am thinking I'm being boycotted, maybe I'm just paranoid..

[Adam Brown]

friday night kicked ass, havn't had that much fun in ages

hooray!

[JoeCool]

yeah friday night was quite enjoyable.

(especially after the madness at the free drinking session with pete and mental)

*Very Drunken Antics@Elysium* hahahah

"I'll have another 3 jacks and coke, two corona's and a crown lager please"

woah.

[Xtreem]

I cant even remember going to Elysium!&%&&&#36&#36%^%) whoa! I was mega pissed too

[Adam Brown]

Is Elysium happening this weekend? Because Brisk and Ham are on the 23rd of November, is this replacing the first friday of the month which is the 2nd of November?

[Versetyle]

Yeah man http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gifhttp://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gifhttp://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gifhttp://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gifhttp://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gifhttp://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gifhttp://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif it is, but i think tha trade was worth it !

[JoeCool]

too true olly, and what a swap it was!

[syko]

looking forward to it http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Adam Brown]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>ELYSIUM FIRST BIRTHDAY EVENT&#33;&#33;&#33;</span>

December 14th, with DJ&#39;s HIXXY and SCOTT BROWN

and the reason I&#39;m getting so excited about all this is because scott brown will be playing GABBERRRRRRRRRRR&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

And before you go shooting your mouth off travis, YES he&#39;ll be playing both OLD and NEW SCHOOL stuff&#33;&#33;

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO an authentic ANNIHILATOR gabber set, I can&#39;t fucking wait&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Make plenty of room for the gabbertr0n machine on the floor&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[JoeCool]

OMG i just checked my email and see that scott brown and hixxy are playing....

OMG

i cant wait&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

HARDCORE WILL NEVER DIE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Catholic Quarantine]

scott brown will be playing some dutch stuff too? he did at sensation (which i didn&#39;t go to) but didn&#39;t at random logik (which i did go to)

ok i&#39;ll go if he plays dutch

[Catholic Quarantine]

keep in mind though, i&#39;ll be going for the music he&#39;ll be playing, rather than the fact that he&#39;s ScOtT BrOwN...

[Versetyle]

Quote from Catholic Quarantine, posted on 14-11-2001 17:42

keep in mind though, i&#39;ll be going for the music he&#39;ll be playing, rather than the fact that he&#39;s ScOtT BrOwN...

Why do u feel the need to justify WHY your going http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif

[Catholic Quarantine]

people talk ... i gotta protect my rep ... it wouldn&#39;t look good in the rags yall understand

[nigel]

How come people have to keep saying &#39;hardcore will never die&#33;&#39;...?
If its not going to die, what the fuck are you worried about.

And this thread has a misleading title. Elysium is not Perth&#39;s only hardcore night. Bigup Ollie for keeping it real as fuck.

[EasyTiger]

Elhornet ... No your right, Elysium is not the only hardcore night in Perth ... But it &#39;was&#39; when i started the thread, many moons ago.

Big up the Resistance indeed.

Hardcore will neva die &#33;&#33;&#33; Lets keep saying it. ha ha ha ha

[Catholic Quarantine]

I THINK WE ALL NEED TO GET SOME DEFINITIONS STRAIGHT, YES?

[Catholic Quarantine]

Quote from Elhornet, posted on 14-11-2001 22:25

How come people have to keep saying &#39;hardcore will never die&#33;&#39;...?
If its not going to die, what the fuck are you worried about.

And this thread has a misleading title. Elysium is not Perth&#39;s only hardcore night. Bigup Ollie for keeping it real as fuck.

big ups indeed&#33;

[zoombox]

Quote from Catholic Quarantine, posted on 14-11-2001 17:42

keep in mind though, i&#39;ll be going for the music he&#39;ll be playing, rather than the fact that he&#39;s ScOtT BrOwN...

what the...nah lets get one thing straight you are going because its Scott Brown, becuase you want to here the music that he is going to play.

When are you going to stop trying to be so cool and underground by dissing anything that anybody but yourself likes.

[Catholic Quarantine]

i&#39;m not trying to be cool you idiot

i don&#39;t diss things purely because people like them, it&#39;s because they are CRAP, and deserve all the disrespecting in the world.

thankfully scott brown sometimes plays real hardcore (more on the "party"core side of things unfortunately, but hell it&#39;s still 10 times better than any hardcore we get here) but i consider him a sellout.

[flaunt]

but youre the real deal right?

[Catholic Quarantine]

this isn&#39;t about me, but rest assured, if i was in a position where i could sacrifice my musical morals for cash, i wouldn&#39;t do it.

he&#39;s done it, or he doesn&#39;t have any musical morals.

scott brown makes hardcore for money.

[zoombox]

Quote from Catholic Quarantine, posted on 15-11-2001 14:25

this isn&#39;t about me, but rest assured, if i was in a position where i could sacrifice my musical morals for cash, i wouldn&#39;t do it.

he&#39;s done it, or he doesn&#39;t have any musical morals.

scott brown makes hardcore for money.

if he was a real sell out i dont think he would still be making hardcore you fool, i dont exactly think the most money in dance is to be made in Hardcore.

[Versetyle]

Cheers paul.

[Catholic Quarantine]

stop calling me a fool, you sad little unit

scotty maybe not the world&#39;s worst sellout, but he&#39;s not exactly keeping it real either.

[kranky al]

church decorator has a mirror above his bed, a box of tissues on the bedside table and a bin full of used ones by the side- he keeps it "THAT" real

[nigel]

Ah fair enough Leroy. I didn&#39;t check the date on this thread.

Is Scott Brown a sellout because he&#39;s kinda popular as far as happy hardcore goes, or do you have some factual information to back up your claims.

(I couldn&#39;t think of anything I know that he&#39;s done offhand so I wouldn&#39;t know)

[PKING]

although I maintain my dislike for "nu-skool" Hardcore- impressive line up all the same lads.. really pulling in some big guns on the Hardcore circuit.. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Catholic Quarantine]

fuck off with this "nu skool" crap&#33; it&#39;s not "nu skool", "newstyle", "new school", or "nu style" its REAL HARDCORE.

get with the program.

i think that scott brown is a sellout because one minute he&#39;s making his UK trancecore, and happy hardcore, then he&#39;s over at Neophyte&#39;s studios in Holland making cheesy dutch style partycore. He doesn&#39;t seem to stand for anything in particular. Also I think he has a whole bunch of non-hardcore labels .. he&#39;s raking in the &#36;&#36;, he&#39;s a sellout.

[zero B]

Quote from Catholic Quarantine, posted on 16-11-2001 10:18

fuck off with this "nu skool" crap&#33; it&#39;s not "nu skool", "newstyle", "new school", or "nu style" its REAL HARDCORE.

get with the program.

i think that scott brown is a sellout because one minute he&#39;s making his UK trancecore, and happy hardcore, then he&#39;s over at Neophyte&#39;s studios in Holland making cheesy dutch style partycore. He doesn&#39;t seem to stand for anything in particular. Also I think he has a whole bunch of non-hardcore labels .. he&#39;s raking in the &#36;&#36;, he&#39;s a sellout.

Now making money= sellout?
So you gotta be living on the bones of your arse crawling around with the hoes of Amsterdam on your hands and knees for some crumbs just to say you are keeping real and you aint no sellout

Obviously liking two different genres is unacceptable these days. If you cant be pigeon holed, of course, you must be a sellout.

He still plays and produces hardcore doesnt he

[Pinhead]

yes, of rather poor quality

it&#39;s like most of the partycore guys. bass d, king matthew, headbanger.. .scott brown.

simple music = big &#36;&#36;

[kranky al]

sorry im not down with the various divisions of music within the harcore scene - but- has it ever occurred to you thaat he may really love the genres of music that he is producing and in what way does this make him a sellout. i love dnb breaks and house and that is what im going to make- because i wish to produce 3 styles of music am i a sellout?

[flaunt]

apparently to be the real mc&#39;coy, ya gotta make tunes that NOBODY will buy, or risk being a "sell-out".
correct me if im wrong churchie?
or are you jealous of his success? i think scott brown has worked long and hard at producing music he is passionate about - and so what if his tunes sell?? Shit, gotta pay rent and bills somehow ?&#33;?&#33;

[Pinhead]

Quote from kranky al, posted on 16-11-2001 13:57

sorry im not down with the various divisions of music within the harcore scene - but- has it ever occurred to you thaat he may really love the genres of music that he is producing and in what way does this make him a sellout. i love dnb breaks and house and that is what im going to make- because i wish to produce 3 styles of music am i a sellout?

you like house? hahaha

i&#39;m growing tired of this argument. if scotty was writing good songs then all would be dandy. but you can tell he writes his hardcore to have maximum accessibility.

all his stuff sounds like it&#39;s been specifically made for parties, ie, a commercial sound. the dutch hardcore sound and the UK hardcore sound are totally different.

i don&#39;t expect you guys to understand this, as you accept UK happy a legitimate form of music.

this post is a little bit scattered as my brain is currently all over the place.

[Adam Brown]

I quite like Headbanger stuff myself churcho&#33;

"now tell me..."

[Pinhead]

yeah i liked that record to, but since then it&#39;s been all downhill.

have you heard "are you afraid of the dark"?? he&#39;s STILL using the pilldriver bassdrum, the melodies sound very similar to his previous melodies... eesh... he&#39;s just sticking to the same formula.

same goes for dr z-vago and dj dione... all three of these artists are on the "megarave" label, all used to be good, now all of them are just making partycore crap that goes nowhere.

compare these clowns to the real hardcore guys like promo, nosferatu, and endymion and there&#39;s just no comparing&#33;

[kranky al]

church- can you post 4 links 2 of this "perty core" and two that you consider quality so i can listen for myself

cheerz

[PKING]

REFERENCE: PLONKER SQUAD

(1) "Get with the program- I dont like expressions like "Nu-Skool hardcore bla bla bla"- Catholic Quarintine.

Actually, I was with the "program" I was a reg down at Gravs 96-99 and went to all the big "Hardcore" raves in Perth- Adrenalin, Helter Skeleter etc etc If Hardcore, which is played out by a decreasing minority of DJ&#39;s that used to play Hardcore before the new millenium, nowadays is not "Nu-Skool", then what is it? New Hardcore tracks with old samples packed through? Old Skool? You obviously are a sad, sad person that is unbalanced in their judgement/comments, and dont like to hear your preferred stylee labelled "Nu-Skool" as you wish you were around in 90-95...and if you were....you were probably nearly as much twat as you are now. Anyone that starts unbacked arguments RE: the Hardcore scene in Perth, doesnt deserve to be in it- thats NOT what being a "Hardcore Raver" is all about- Peace, Love and Unity...in case you havent heard the track.... http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/mad.gif

(2) "obviously you cannot like more than one genre nowadays"-Zero B.

Says Who??? Please explain where the fuck you got this rubbish from. Its little uneducated twats like yerself that really piss me off and make me glad that the only reason (apart from the love of my tunes, of course) I go to a club/rave now is to earn cash- from suckers like you. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/mad.gif

[zero B]

Quote from PKING, posted on 16-11-2001 23:19

REFERENCE: PLONKER SQUAD



(2) "obviously you cannot like more than one genre nowadays"-Zero B.

Says Who??? Please explain where the fuck you got this rubbish from. Its little uneducated twats like yerself that really piss me off and make me glad that the only reason (apart from the love of my tunes, of course) I go to a club/rave now is to earn cash- from suckers like you. http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/mad.gif

Man you read it all wrong, i was being sarcastic, taking the piss out of CD. Ahhhhhhhh misinterpretations over the internet once again

[shekoala]

blah http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif blah http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif blah http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Catholic Quarantine]

kranky,

**2 party core links

"Fuck this track up" - Tommyknocker (http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/hardcore/ir004a2.ram)

<a href="http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/hardcore/mrv048a1.ram" target="_blank">"Gangsta, Gangsta" - Dr Z-Vago
</a>

**2 good hardcore links

<a href="http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/hardcore/file10ba1.ram" target="_blank">"Rude Awakening" - DJ Promo
</a>

<a href="http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/hardcore/sin15track1.ram" target="_blank">"Absolute Evil" - Ophidian
</a>

**1 newstyle link, to demonstrate the difference

<a href="http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/oldschool/crmx10a1.ram" target="_blank">"Switch" (Tekno Warriors rmx) - Pamp & Da Knox
</a>


pking,

christ&#33; i am not a "hardcore raver" and i couldn't give a fuck about "plur" because it's a load of crap&#33;

i don't care what parties you went to&#33; what are you trying to prove? and i would hardly call "gravs" hardcore.

i'm not sure what you mean regarding your comment "1990-1995". are you under the impression that i like oldskool? quite the obvious actually. the past is there as an occasional reminder of what NOT to do, not something that you should focus on 24/7.

and i just don't like the term "nuskool" ; it just shits me off. can't people just call it how it is? why do you need to change the spelling or add "fuNkAy" extra words. its HARDCORE you fools. REAL HARDCORE.

[PKING]

i wasnt stating that I classified Hardcore tunes nowadays as "NU-SKOOL HARDCORE". I wasnt stating that THIS IS THE GENRE ITS KNOWN AS. This is why I used " " these mate. In case you didnt know that means that I call Hardcore nowadays "Nu-Skool" cos it is- why do you think the main label run by Brisk/Ham Next Generation was founded and set up- cos its for "the new generation".

Shit man.... peace http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/tounge.gif

[Catholic Quarantine]

Brisk and Ham ARE NOT HARDCORE. They are happy hardcore. There&#39;s a world of difference&#33;

"new generation"http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif?&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; thats a funny joke. i&#39;ve heard many songs on that label and "blatent beats" and none of them push any boundaries even slightly.

[Reveler]

Quote from Catholic Quarantine, posted on 18-11-2001 11:21

Brisk and Ham ARE NOT HARDCORE. They are happy hardcore. There&#39;s a world of difference&#33;

"new generation"http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif?&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; thats a funny joke. i&#39;ve heard many songs on that label and "blatent beats" and none of them push any boundaries even slightly.

will anything ever make you happy?? you seem a bit tense, wont your gold fish nibble on ure dick when you put it in the tank??

if coke offers your fav d&#39;js millions of dollars to wear coke t-shirts, will you ditch them because there sellouts??

maybe you should just relaxing a bit..

brisk and ham willl kick ass..

face this fact...


BRING ON THE HARDCORE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[sTaRbAbY]

Quote from Reveler, posted on 19-11-2001 20:12

brisk and ham willl kick ass..

face this fact...


BRING ON THE HARDCORE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

here, here&#33; http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif

[syko]

iam excited http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Versetyle]

Once again churchie... we are getting the internationals WE want and you are&#39;nt, so there &#33;&#33;&#33; har har har &#33; http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/tounge.gif I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll have fun mixing in your bedroom on friday night while we enjoy ourselvs at elysium &#33; " man this tunes wickid hey " *churchie looks around* "oh wait ... I&#39;m in my bedroom because I have my head up my arse" http://www.teknoscape.com.au/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Catholic Quarantine]

yeah you are getting your favourite internationals good on ya... whenever i&#39;m feeling disappointed i just think of you guys playing the girliest, gayest, simplest songs and telling each other how wonderful you are, and i take a lot of comfort in the fact that... i&#39;m not one of you&#33;

big ups&#33;

[Catholic Quarantine]

oh yeah, what did everyone think of those r.a. links i posted up. kranky al?

[kranky al]

i downloaded them (im using a pc for the net which im not au fait on how to use ) and when i try to play them i get this message-
Cannot open &#39;C:&#92;WINDOWS&#92;Desktop&#92;ir004a2.ram&#39;. Please verify that the path and filename are correct and try again.

Suggestion: Check the web site or content source for information about playing this content.

any suggestions?

[nigel]

Quote from Catholic Quarantine, posted on 17-11-2001 19:04
kranky,

**2 party core links

"Fuck this track up" - Tommyknocker (http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/hardcore/ir004a2.ram)

<a href="http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/hardcore/mrv048a1.ram" target="_blank">"Gangsta, Gangsta" - Dr Z-Vago
</a>

**2 good hardcore links

<a href="http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/hardcore/file10ba1.ram" target="_blank">"Rude Awakening" - DJ Promo
</a>

<a href="http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/hardcore/sin15track1.ram" target="_blank">"Absolute Evil" - Ophidian
</a>

**1 newstyle link, to demonstrate the difference

<a href="http://www.sector-1.com/media/realaudio/oldschool/crmx10a1.ram" target="_blank">"Switch" (Tekno Warriors rmx) - Pamp & Da Knox
</a>


pking,

christ&#33; i am not a "hardcore raver" and i couldn't give a fuck about "plur" because it's a load of crap&#33;

i don't care what parties you went to&#33; what are you trying to prove? and i would hardly call "gravs" hardcore.

i'm not sure what you mean regarding your comment "1990-1995". are you under the impression that i like oldskool? quite the obvious actually. the past is there as an occasional reminder of what NOT to do, not something that you should focus on 24/7.

and i just don't like the term "nuskool" ; it just shits me off. can't people just call it how it is? why do you need to change the spelling or add "fuNkAy" extra words. its HARDCORE you fools. REAL HARDCORE.

The Tommyknocker thing and the Z - Vago tune are completely and utterly toy.
I lasted half way through the buildup on the Z - Vago thing before I closed real player. What total candy shit.

Oh yeah. There's a dnb person called Tommyknocker too.

Rude Awakening by Promo is fucking cool. I like it. I actually heard the Loony Tunes guys play a very similar tune in a techno set about 2 years ago.

Absoloute Evil, although having a very gay name is a very cool tune too. The dark vocal sample at the start of that file rules. If only they discovered how to use decent sounding hihats and crash cymbals. Sounds like rebirth/a 909.

Switch is complete and utter garbage. You could get away with playing that on PMFM. Absoloutely toy. Whats with those stupid homeboy vocals? Lame. I hate it.

So...it's thumbs up for Promo and Ophidian.

[nigel]

Oh yeah Travis, listen to this (http://www.dnbmassive.com/play.php?id=560) and tell me what you think.

[Catholic Quarantine]

kranky - thats weird... maybe just try streaming them off the net?

paul - yes agreed, the first 2 links are complete shit. it&#39;s a shame because those guys have made some decent tracks, but now they&#39;ve just become so unimaginative and simplistic. i know it&#39;s wrong, but i actually kinda like "switch" - i don&#39;t know why, those hihats are just so funky&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; i am conflicted. it&#39;s so gay.. but.. so cool..

i am intrigued by the link you posted. while i&#39;m having a bitch of a time listening to it (crap home net access with real audio is a bad mix) it&#39;s actually quite decent - i like the lack of over-the-top basslines and the "standard" dnb beat (the beat is well constructed), kind of dreamy but also a little dark. the only thing i don&#39;t really like is the melody of that quick sort of half acid thingy - doesn&#39;t seem to go with the strings too well. what would you class the track as?

[tuan]

Just curious, in places like Holland right the dutch hardcore sound is one of the biggest there and it seems that the whole country gets into it judging by all the pictures, so does that mean that over there its sorta (dear i say it) &#39;mainstream&#39; cos its so populer where as say here it doesnt get played that much so obviously its underground? Churchy?

the the the the theAlso, where do u buy those records online? i cant find them anywhere on the net. Im after these tunes:

the the the the Dj Promo - My undeground madness (trance mania&#33;&#33;&#33;)
the the the the Base Alert - Down with the game
the the the the The Masochist - Pump it up yall
the the the the theScott Brown - King of the beats
RTC - Pshyco game

Damn that Absolute Evil tune is hard.

[Rico]

I like that track elhornet.
and I like the absolute evil one, I haven&#39;t heard the rest.

[nigel]

i am intrigued by the link you posted. while i&#39;m having a bitch of a time listening to it (crap home net access with real audio is a bad mix) it&#39;s actually quite decent - i like the lack of over-the-top basslines and the "standard" dnb beat (the beat is well constructed), kind of dreamy but also a little dark. the only thing i don&#39;t really like is the melody of that quick sort of half acid thingy - doesn&#39;t seem to go with the strings too well. what would you class the track as?


If it goes how I want it to, that tune is what I would call THE FUTURE.
I&#39;ve been dribbling on about it for a while. It&#39;s called &#39;Stay with me&#39; by Klute. Coincidentally he is in town this weekend.
I&#39;m almost feeling sick I am that excited.

His beats are so fresh. No rehashing old tired amens or funky drummers or any of that shit and the synth patterns he comes up with are positively haunting. I dig the acid line personally but a few people have said it sounds odd.

Ok, now we&#39;d better resume gabber/dnb hate mode. People might start rumours we are gay lovers.

[kranky al]

churchy- i told u pc&#39;s are shit- i tried streaming it and i get the same dumbass message I WANT MY MAC BACK

[Catholic Quarantine]

kranky - pcs won&#39;t cooperate with you - they sense your hostility towards them. when you discover that macs only purpose was to give pcs a kick up the arse in the multimedia department a few years ago, they will embrace you as you embrace them.

tuan - well i don&#39;t know about the whole country; don&#39;t forget holland has almost the same population as australia, but yes hardcore is very big over there. you could say it is somewhat "mainstream" in holland as far as electronic music goes. this is the reason that a reasonable amount of producers have adopted a "partycore" style; it brings in the cash. thankfully, there are still plenty of producers who keep the underground sound. it&#39;s worth noting that hardcore was probably more "mainstream" around 1995 however - around the time of "ecstacy you got what i need" that got in the dutch charts (absolute shit, rob gee is a talentless tool).

the records you&#39;re looking for are :

dj promo "file 009 : different breed of men" (third movement)
base alert - "down with the game" (masters of hardcore)
the masochist "10 inch" (masters of hardcore)

dunno bout the other 2 .. i think the scott brown record is on neophyte, and the rtc would be on megarave

they should all be at www.sector-1.com

[jamie]

i listened to those links posted before,
i liked the promo and ophidian tracks, the promo one espcially, the one thing which really turns me off is the kickdrum used in gabber, if there was a different kick for that promo track i&#39;d really like it.

[RandomLogik]

Adam Brown : is that you i saw in the carillion arcade today ?
http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Catholic Quarantine]

Quote from jamie, posted on 22-11-2001 18:27

i listened to those links posted before,
i liked the promo and ophidian tracks, the promo one espcially, the one thing which really turns me off is the kickdrum used in gabber, if there was a different kick for that promo track i&#39;d really like it.

what don&#39;t you like about the kick?

i think hardcore has the best kicks ever... all other styles seem to just use a dry 909 one

[Adam Brown]

The bassdrum is half of the reason ANYONE likes gabber I think&#33; Even when I used to bring my discman to school all the random people that used to listen to it would say "Wow man this has a really different beat, it&#39;s wicked&#33;"

It&#39;s so stompy, how can you NOT like it?

RandomAnna: Indeed it was, I told my boss I was "getting my car fixed" and then I just went off and had lunch hehe&#33; I wasn&#39;t sure if it was you but I&#39;ll say hello next time&#33;

[Catholic Quarantine]

jesus, what school did you go to? the most common response i got was "ya techno faggot/why don&#39;t you listen to some real music like pantera"

anyhow the drum is obviously the most identifying aspect of hardcore. thankfully, the days of being able to &#39;rely&#39; solely on the bassdrum are well and truly over.

[RandomLogik]

heheh thought so, near red rooster http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
i bought subway mmmmmm

yeah i was going to say hello cos i was pretty sure that was you, just didn&#39;t want to look like a fool incase you didn&#39;t know who i was &#33; oh well, next time http://www.teknoscape.com.au/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Catholic Quarantine]

Quote from Adam Brown, posted on 16-11-2001 15:45

I quite like Headbanger stuff myself churcho&#33;

"now tell me..."

its also worth noting that i&#39;ve just found out that the headbanger (aka waxweazle) has been making EXTREMELY GAY COMMERICAL CLUB songs (in the club charts too) under his real name Rob Fabrie. So the reason his hardcore sound hasn&#39;t progressed is because he&#39;s too busy selling out&#33; Lame fuckhead.

Some of the song names he&#39;s made under the name DJ Rob Fabrie : "To All The DJs", "Make Some Noise"

real groundbreaking stuff&#33; they sound fucking terrible.

[tuan]

Yeah i see what you mean about the Partycore stuff, sounds like absloute nonsense, slap on a cheeky sample and its instantly easier on the ears.
The kick drum definitely dominates in all forms of gabber, but follow that up with some heavy synthy rythyms or the trance styles ive been listening to of late and its killer&#33; Really starting to enjoy this sound.

[Catholic Quarantine]

thats what i like to hear&#33;

[jamie]

i dunno, i just really dislike the distorted kick drum, it seems to dominate the music to much imho,
the synths and noises promo uses are very interesting, and for me the kickdrum is just to much sometimes

[screwiconboard]

yo trav&#33;

just outta curiosity - what do you think of this IDM type stuff? umm.. planet mu, a lot of the american hardcore labels.. it&#39;s not so 909 reliant and works more on breaks etc.. pretty interesting stuff some of it - going to play some stuff in that direction on the 22nd&#33;

[Catholic Quarantine]

max, whats idm? i don&#39;t like breaks at all, but if you list some labels its on i&#39;ll have a listen.. (never heard of planet mu&#33;)

do you mean like "breakcore"??

[nigel]

Quote from Catholic Quarantine, posted on 23-11-2001 20:52

do you mean like "breakcore"??

Breakcore? LOL, you mean hardcore don&#39;t you.

Hardcore started with breaks in it if I remember correctly.

[Catholic Quarantine]

yes but breakcore is like speedcore with breaks or something .. nasty amiga made stuff... can&#39;t stand it personally

[nigel]

Quote from Catholic Quarantine, posted on 23-11-2001 21:27

yes but breakcore is like speedcore with breaks or something .. nasty amiga made stuff... can&#39;t stand it personally

Brown played me some speedcore once. I thought it was funny.
Can&#39;t see it working with breaks though :&#124;

[screwiconboard]

hmm its hard to describe, but basically its like a really broad genre of shit that&#39;s just DIFFERENT. it&#39;s a little bit wanky the whole pretense of it being INTELLIGENT..

there&#39;s a few interesting pieces but on the whole it&#39;s not a genre i don&#39;t think you could say you&#39;re into without sounding like a tosser...

"ooooh, i listen to nothing but IDM"

check this out for a listen...
http://www.planet-mu.com/discog/ziq011/ziq011_01_lo.mp3

that&#39;s an example of WHAT sort of stuff gets culled under the IDM / strange electronics banner.. for example.. Planet Mu even put out a Hellfish track.. go figure&#33;

[nigel]

Aaaah. Attack of the fucking wanky genres and sub genres.

That sound clip sounds just like what I would call Indi Pop, reminiscent of early Sonic Youth or Dinosaur Jr.

I&#39;m gonna go check out of the rest of that site because there sure wasn&#39;t anything new or intelligent about that sound clip.

[nigel]

Ah this is the mob who have Venetian Snares on their label.
His stuff is excellent, but that clip sounded like pop.

Check out warprecords.net for more weirdness.

[i]

Partycore??

You mean people don&#39;t like speedcore being played at parties?

What is the world coming to...

[Catholic Quarantine]

i am confused

i just listened to that clip - i was expecting something "hard" but... well... it just sounds like pop&#33; sounds like 70s pop&#33; i don&#39;t understand.. am i missing something?? it hardly even sounded electronic. and it had singing...

so what does idm stand for? where is the link between that indipop sound and a hellfish track???

[screwiconboard]

trav: yeah&#33; that&#39;s the idea&#33; IDM is a strange sort of genre.. IDM stands for Intelligent Dance Music (wank wank) and it encompasses everything from hardcoer to strange electronic breaks..

hellfish doesn&#39;t really have too much to do with IDM as far as i know, he just happened to have a release on Planet Mu.. an IDM type label..

Dunno.. just thought you might be interested in that sorta stuff - lots of legwork to be done but i&#39;m sure like most genres there are some excellent bits of music and vinyl to be purchased&#33;

[Adam Brown]

I always figured IDM to be strictly Drill&#39;n&#39;Bass type stuff, heaps of offtimed patterns and psychotic percussion bits, but I stand to be corrected

And there&#39;s plenty more where that came from paul, check the URL at the bottom of my signiture&#33;