Mixed Martial Arts

[badr]

sonnen is a drug cheat and an aspiring republican politician - no wonder al likes him

You forget he was also busted for money laundering through a real estate company front.

The guys either a comic book charater come to life or just really stupid. Still though, mad props to his wrestling.

[kranky al]

OH... a clever ruse.

yes - i was saying that i love it cos i dont have to get in the ring with some monster like chael sonnen - i can beat up on a chick and get away slightly less injured- anyhow - it was a bit of a joke that evidently none of you got.

[The Biz]

So we've lost Strikeforce, Sengoku and DREAM in under a week. Wtf?

Sengoku lost their major sponsor and is in serious jeopardy, and DREAM's parent company FEG is doing some major restructuring and no more events are planned at this time. On the other end of things, M-1 Global just signed a new TV deal with Showtime but who really cares about Vladimir Kritzkov vs Vladimir Kasperov. I think it might be time to check out Bellator, they've been putting on some good cards lately from the sounds of it.

[Suloh]

So we've lost Strikeforce, Sengoku and DREAM in under a week. Wtf?

Sengoku lost their major sponsor and is in serious jeopardy, and DREAM's parent company FEG is doing some major restructuring and no more events are planned at this time. On the other end of things, M-1 Global just signed a new TV deal with Showtime but who really cares about Vladimir Kritzkov vs Vladimir Kasperov. I think it might be time to check out Bellator, they've been putting on some good cards lately from the sounds of it.

last bellator was a pile of shit

[Suloh]

RIP Kame Hayato, a DREAM fighter, He died along with his wife and 2 kids in the tsunami

[badr]

last bellator was a pile of shit

exactly

they have carved themselves out a little niche market though with having a tourney style company, plus its shown on MTV2 which is pretty good, but considering the talent pool they have, its pretty weak.

Bellator will only go as long as their sponsors hold up.

[badr]

So we've lost Strikeforce

Err how? Strikeforce is still holding its heavyweight tourney, and for the first time it maybe available on PPV.

Strikeforce has another two year contract with Showtime which is said to be continued.. Why you crying? Enjoy the next two years.

[badr]

yes - i was saying that i love it cos i dont have to get in the ring with some monster like chael sonnen - i can beat up on a chick and get away slightly less injured- anyhow - it was a bit of a joke that evidently none of you got.

its alright man people can backpeddle this isnt some popular thread for anyone to bag on you for it =p

[manIk]

CroCop got fucked up!
great start to the card

[Interjecta]

CroCop got fucked up!
great start to the card

Lucky he didn't break his neck or dislocate his shoulder with that landing. Ouch.

[TRIbe]

didnt think it was the greatest fight - jones just owned him - inspiring kid, just makes me wanna train n learn. hopefully rua come back strong i didnt think he looked great - dont know what his game plan was??? but like iron mike says - everybody got a plan til they get punched in the head - like to silva vs jones as opposed to gsp silva, silva always dangerous n composed off his back - hendo, sonnen, luter

from my limited time watchn mma - im startn to think its gone full circle - started with royce n bjj, then turned to being bad, big, heavy handed - all the chute boys, brock, chuck - now gone back to not so much bjj but more precision striking - silva, conditioning - gsp, all round game - jones, cain - mad respect 4 mr brown pride 121 sit in the pocket take the brock rush n then just turn it around - knee on the chest feeding him leather sandwiches - bad man, love that fight

[Polski Beach Bum]

ended up going to the cas with a few mates, jones v rua was epic, well, i was rooting for jones' crazy bag of tricks, and he delivered. weird in a way seeing the cas at 10am with seniors pumping away at the slots :/

[Deej]

I was at the cas last night after Billy Connolly and I considered going an all nighter to see the show haha.

Just watched it, Ive had a few drinks and I had goosebumps at the end. Crazy back elbow on the fence!. Bones was amazing. 3 years training???? I gotta get in shape hahaha

[badr]

cro cop ;(

[Birt]

cro cop ;(

Agreed, he was so bad ass back in the day, and one of the reasons why I enjoyed MMA so much. I really think the UFC should put together an old timers card Pride Vs UFC to aid Japan, that would rock.

[The Biz]

Somebody needs to show Brendon Schaub how a t-shirt works.

[kranky al]

you think you are so badr than me - /me turns back at the weigh in

[badr]

Whats everyones thoughts on Sheilds vs GSP? Yes, TRIbe we know you think GSP is going to win. Fact is a lot of people will.

I feel jake sheilds is getting counted out though, the guy pretty much lays around and finger bangs too, but he has good submissions and gnp, could be a tough job if GSP doesnt get roided up.

Everyone is looking past sheilds for the moment, would be sweet if he beats gsp.

Jose Aldo vs Hominick, wow. I cant call it :/ too tough, this is the fight i am waiting for!

I hope Machida beats randy for the simple reason that he keeps his job, the guy is going to be pretty desperate for a win, the fact is though, randy will probably out wrestle him to a UD

Also Bendo is back on this card I hope he gets another shot at pettis, stupid matrix kick meant shit but stole him the fight WAR BENDO!

[TRIbe]

couldnt giv a flying fuk about gsp badr - respect him for being extremely fit n a mad athlete or maybe yeah he just juiced but boring mofo- finish somebody already- i cant see him losing 3 rounds to shields though - but only takes a split second to lock something in - but generally gsp = money in the bank, looking forward to seeing aldo fight

[kranky al]

just watched 128 - jones is a bad fucker - i hope he annihilates evans - the rest of the card was a little disappointing - i like to see a submission or two

[Birt]

Whats everyones thoughts on Sheilds vs GSP?

I think GSP will beat Jake Shields. I don't believe that Jake Shields has the ability to stop GSP take downs, and I don't believe that Shields works his BJJ best off his back. I think we will look to see GSP take this one and set a super-fight with Anderson Silva later this year.

[discount]

A friend and I tried the UFC stream off their website for $40 on the weekend.

It's well worth it, HD quality, very little buffering interruption, and it is fairly interactive, you can change camera angles etc.
Definitely will be doing that from now on when I'm in Aus for events, UFC at Burswood is a farce I don't enjoy that place at all, it's almost 100% dickheads.
I don't watch tv enough to buy foxtel, and I always manage to get spoiled if I download it after the event.
Glad there is an alternative way of watching it in Australia live now!


Not sure why people are upset at other orgs folding or being bought out?
It makes sense, the best basketball players go to the NBA, if another league started up, unless they had billions of dollars to rival the NBA it would die.. same with MMA, there can only be 1 top dog and it is the UFC.

I want to see the best in the world in one place, there will always be regional/farm leagues for upcoming talent, but unless you want MMA to go the same direction as boxing, hundreds of corrupt, greedy promoters and big fights never happening(mayweather v pacquiao anybody?), the UFC has been doing the right thing as far as I am concerned, acquiring or sending rivals out of business.
Now they basically have all the best guys in the one place, only 2 people I really want to see in the UFC/Zuffa now is Hector Lombard and Eddie Alvarez from Bellator.

As for Shields vs GSP, I do not see it going any other way GSP is good enough to keep the fight where he wants it to be, really it is as simple as that, Shields might have better submissions and *might* get the odd takedown, but GSP will win decisively, and I suspect Shields will be leg kicked and jabbed into a bloody mess.

[kranky al]

boxing has how many champions of the world in each weight division?

[voi]

A friend and I tried the UFC stream off their website for $40 on the weekend.

It's well worth it, HD quality, very little buffering interruption, and it is fairly interactive, you can change camera angles etc.
Definitely will be doing that from now on when I'm in Aus for events, UFC at Burswood is a farce I don't enjoy that place at all, it's almost 100% dickheads.
I don't watch tv enough to buy foxtel, and I always manage to get spoiled if I download it after the event.
Glad there is an alternative way of watching it in Australia live now!

I'm in the same boat, what website is it? UFC.com?

The Brook Tavern in Ellenbrook has recently opened, their sports bar holds UFC main events.

[discount]

boxing has how many champions of the world in each weight division?

yeah exactly, it's bullshit

As much as the UFC can be cunts to people who get on their bad side, they are not even in the same league of cunt as Don King.

[discount]

I'm in the same boat, what website is it? UFC.com?

The Brook Tavern in Ellenbrook has recently opened, their sports bar holds UFC main events.

Yeah, I believe there was a "watch UFC" link for the event, cost $40 and accepted Paypal! It's seriously worth it if you have a few mates who are into MMA, assuming your internet is up to scratch.

[DizzzeeJungle]

Yeah or spend $40 on booze and just stream it for free flawlessly online?

Its how I'v done the last 3 !

[discount]

Yeah or spend $40 on booze and just stream it for free flawlessly online?

Its how I'v done the last 3 !

I don't drink so it's not really an incentive.

The stream is normally really shitty quality and buffers a lot on the free sites.

I prefer paying considering it's guys who are risking their health for my entertainment, and a lot of them can't even make enough to train full time, not like this is movie studios crying poor, I have no qualms downloading movies, but would personally like to see MMA grow and the guys get paid what they deserve.
It's only $10 or so if you have a few friends chip in.

[AngryJungMan]

lol at jones headbutting shogun's sternum

[TRIbe]

boxing has how many champions of the world in each weight division?

the fact that mundine held a belt n green is a current champ says it all. if boxing pissed off all the rubbish n had 1 comp - maybe 2 lower down the weight classes -good old days - last bhop fight was solid, n cotto v mayorga was meant to b alright

dizzee - where u streaming from??

cos all the ones i use r rubbish - n start cutting out freeze - just rubbish i normally give up - i've bought fights on yahoosports b4 - all good plus u get replay for 24 hrs so can watch a few times, can normally get decent streams ufc live n strikeforce but the big ufc cards - no danger

[Birt]

Strike Force event was quality tonight.

I would certainly suggest watching it.

[manIk]

yep, diaz vs daley is a slugfest

[badr]

Discount posted something about Diaz wanting to get fired now so he can make it in the UFC, don't blame him really, the guy hasn't had any time off in a year

[Birt]

Discount posted something about Diaz wanting to get fired now so he can make it in the UFC, don't blame him really, the guy hasn't had any time off in a year

Fired? The UFC own Strikeforce after the recent acquisition. So Nick Diaz will be renewing his contract with Zuffa.

Should be interesting to see what happen come the end of the Strikeforce contracts, which I believe is 3-4 fights away.

I think they could come up with some quality match-ups.

[Birt]

The UFC acquired Strikeforce last month, so Nick Diaz would be renewing his contract with the UFC.

Once the Strifeforce contracts run out, it should be interesting to see what happens, I will assume something similar to what happened with the WEC.

I think they could certainly pull some great cards with the quantity and quality of fighters they have now.

[DUSTCHILD]

Nick Diaz is a gangsta, totally embarrassed Paul Daley in yesterday's fight.

Would like to see him take on GSP soon. That would be great!

[The Biz]

Mark Hominick got messed up.



Rogan: "Hominick looks like he has an extra head." Lol.

[Suloh]

yeh that shit was nasty,
loved the henderson fight, watched it twice!

[golden_girl]

anyone watching boxing this sunday? pacquiao v. mosley

[David]

anyone watching boxing this sunday? pacquiao v. mosley

ooohhh thankyou very much for the reminder!

[DizzzeeJungle]

didn't mosely lose recently >?

anyway, cred to pac-man, fighting everyone

[TRIbe]

yeh he lost to floyd last fight normally go to the greenwood for the big fights - give this one a miss - cant see mosley pulling anything out of the hat.

talk of ortiz vs floyd - be a decent fight ortiz can bang



as for hominik how the f does ur skin stretch like that

[badr]

Your picks for UFC 130?

MAIN CARD

• Champ Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard (for lightweight title)
• Matt Hamill vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
• Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson (can't say, too close)
• Travis Browne vs. Stefan Struve
• Jorge Santiago vs. Brian Stann

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)

• Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
• Demetrious Johnson vs. Miguel Torres

PRELIMINARY CARD

• Tim Boetsch vs. Kendall Grove
• Bart Palaszewski vs. Gleison Tibau
• Chris Cariaso vs. Michael McDonald
• Renan Barao vs. Cole Escovedo

[Birt]

MAIN CARD

• Champ Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard (for lightweight title)
• Matt Hamill vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
• Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson (can't say, too close)
• Travis Browne vs. Stefan Struve
• Jorge Santiago vs. Brian Stann

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)

• Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
• Demetrious Johnson vs. Miguel Torres

PRELIMINARY CARD

• Tim Boetsch vs. Kendall Grove
• Bart Palaszewski vs. Gleison Tibau
• Chris Cariaso vs. Michael McDonald
• Renan Barao vs. Cole Escovedo

[The Biz]

Too much boring assed boxing talk going on in the MMA thread lately. Anyone who cares to dispute, watch the glorified sparring session that was Pacman vs Mosely, if you can stay awake for it. Now, onto business. My picks for 129:

Gray Maynard def. Frankie Edgar
Rampage Jackson def. Matt Hamill
Roy Nelson def. Frank Mir
Stefan Struve def. the other guy
Brain Stann def. Jorge Santiago
Thiago Alves def. Rick Story
Miguel Torres DESTROYS Demetrious Johnson
Tim Boetsch def. Kendall Grove
Gleison Tibau def. Bart Palaszewski
Don't know/care about the other two fights

[TRIbe]

yeah i'll dispute - anybody who knows anything about boxing knew that was a rubbish fight n dont bother watching

gsp v shields - reigning champ so many title defenses p4p bla bla, shields undefeated 6 yrs bla bla - wank - turned that shit off after 2nd round - u get boring fights in both games.

styles make fights - helps if your opponent isnt completely shot n just looking for a quick buck - this is more of a problem in boxing - obviously

[drastic]

lightweight division is overflowing with quality at moment!
i think the ufc lightweights are behind few of the others to! edgar and maynard are good but rate pettis and henderson (wec) + melendez (strikeforce) all better! can't wait to see them unify them all.
they should have a night of champions or something - unify all the belts!

[badr]

[Deej]

haha that punch was so good. What happened to the Maynard/Edgar fight?

[badr]

yea I thought it was funny... "some guy" eh? :P Alliance have amazing fighters, Browne, Davis, Cruz, Gustaffasson.

And some not so great ones, like Vera & Beltran.

maynard/edgar scrapped as they both were injured, that fight apparently happens in august or sept.

Pettis= fucked, he will need another two wins to keep himself busy/in line for a title shot.