english football discussion thread

**Who Are Ya** · 29-12-2002, 12:35 PM

im glad u did aswell , now shutup

**DeSTinY** · 29-12-2002, 12:47 PM

Arsenal vs Liverpool

Newcastle vs Tottenham

looks like my night is set ...

arse and pool will play out a drab boring 0-0 draw ...

and spurs will beat the loony toons 4-2 to go 5th !!

COME ON YOU SPURS !!

:: the future is bright ... the future is lilywhite ....

**Who Are Ya** · 29-12-2002, 12:53 PM

lets hope they arsneal beats liverpool and the other game turns int a boring draw

then leeds will edge closer , get within striking distance

**Evagreen** · 31-12-2002, 10:58 AM

Milner and Rooney are nothing short of what English football is in dire need of... YOUNG HOME GROWN TALENT instead of importing players from mainland Europe and Africa. England WILL win WC 2006, with or without the poetic justice element! (WC 2006 was sposed to be ours but money was passed under the table so the Germans got it!) Another win to Saints, another win to Glory. How goodz that? Bring on the Spurs!

**Who Are Ya** · 31-12-2002, 11:04 AM

dont go rooney over james milner

**misc.** · 31-12-2002, 11:39 AM

yer i think these new transfer rules are great - without them i guarantee the likes of Rooney and Milner would still be kicking their heels in the youth teams, and wouldn't have been given a chance to proove their stuff. also the likes of Carlton Cole @ Chelsea etc. all these great young players coming thru, along with Jenas etc @ Newcastle show that English football, and the national team, are gonna be an even bigger power in the future

**Who Are Ya** · 31-12-2002, 02:48 PM

only to disapoint when it counts

itll be funyn seeing the aussies beat english in soccer , least if the english win the barmy army can start a new chant 2-1

**misc.** · 31-12-2002, 03:27 PM

hahaha australia beating england is such a laugh!!!

even New Zealand are ranked higher than Australia!

**Who Are Ya** · 07-01-2003, 12:56 AM

wot a week its been , spurs getting thrashed,newcastle getting knocked out of f.a cup along with everton , liverpool sliding down the ladder ....leeds looking like top four contenders .....alls going well

its venables 60th birthday today , happy birthday Terry

On a light hearted note, Terry's stars for the month ahead could prove good news for United fans too..

Capricorn:

"The world is opening up for you, dear Capricorn, and you will see evidence of this the moment the New Year begins. (That win over Birmingham!) A positive, friendly new moon on January 2 will clear the road ahead and you couldn't be happier (United win in the FA Cup!). Suddenly, everything you've been dreaming about seems possible, (Champions League chase is back on?) and you sense you are gaining control over your life, at long last. You are gearing up to seize the reigns, but things aren't 100% ready yet ("..we can still improve" - TV). You will have to be a little patient for certain planets to catch up. Mercury, the planet of communication, travel, and commerce will retrograde in Capricorn from January 2-22 (Can't get hold of Barcelona before transfer deadline!). Things will proceed much more slowly than you might like (Those transfer deals may hit a snag). Don't let that concern you; this time, delays are actually going to work in your favor (we get players in for less than expected and can afford to pay Rivaldo's wages as a result!).---->taken from leeds website

**outremont** · 07-01-2003, 01:22 AM

newcastle are too inconsistent to really be treated seriously, and thats a shame. we don't have a strong squad either. . i'm pretty happy we're in the top 4 at the moment though.

getting knocked out of the fa cup at this stage is pretty wack. no fa cup final party then.

**slave** · 07-01-2003, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by IllmAtic

Capricorn:

"The world is opening up for you, dear Capricorn, and you will see evidence of this the moment the New Year begins. (That win over Birmingham!) A positive, friendly new moon on January 2 will clear the road ahead and you couldn't be happier (United win in the FA Cup!). Suddenly, everything you've been dreaming about seems possible, (Champions League chase is back on?) and you sense you are gaining control over your life, at long last. You are gearing up to seize the reigns, but things aren't 100% ready yet ("..we can still improve" - TV). You will have to be a little patient for certain planets to catch up. Mercury, the planet of communication, travel, and commerce will retrograde in Capricorn from January 2-22 (Can't get hold of Barcelona before transfer deadline!). Things will proceed much more slowly than you might like (Those transfer deals may hit a snag). Don't let that concern you; this time, delays are actually going to work in your favor (we get players in for less than expected and can afford to pay Rivaldo's wages as a result!).---->taken from leeds website

then u woke up and realised it was all a dream, and leeds were still in the bottom half of the table, and the only time they will be going to europe next season is on the end of year trip..

**Who Are Ya** · 07-01-2003, 10:58 AM

ah well , ill take winning the f.a cup

better than nothing at all

looks like leeds are a day away from selling boywer and dacourt , which is a bit disapointing as they both r good players buth avent been getting a gay

this is going to pave the way for us to get kleberson and some1 else...nice!

**DeSTinY** · 07-01-2003, 02:04 PM

sigh ... spurs spurs spurs ...
losing to the saints twice in as mnay matches and 4-0 at that ..
wot a laff ..
fucking hell ... from a possible 5th ... we're so down that if we lose gainst the toffs we'll be heading towards the bottom half !!

COME on YOU SPURS !!!! the players arent doing enough !! hoddle better take some motivational talk classes !!!

lol@illmatic ... hahaha thats some farnee shit ..

but yeah leeds r on the up ... shame bout bowyer and dacourt leaving ... hmmm .. maybe spurs can get em bfore the hammers ..

**FatBassLines** · 07-01-2003, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Trouble on TS
newcastle are too inconsistent to really be treated seriously, and thats a shame. we don't have a strong squad either. . i'm pretty happy we're in the top 4 at the moment though.

getting knocked out of the fa cup at this stage is pretty wack. no fa cup final party then.

tell me about it , the defending was sooooooooooooooo bad, and heres bobby saying dont make up rumours about a new defender it upsets the players, well boo fucking hoo thes guys are getting paid heaps to peform and if they dont u have to bring in someone new and bobby better do that!

**Evagreen** · 07-01-2003, 02:13 PM

As far as I'[m fuckin' concerned, the less that wanker spews from his gob the better after his comments in 98. I didn't know what to think when Hod took charge of Saints but I knew deep in my mind that he would take half of the squad (like what Stracan did too) when he left. Still, I have a lot more respect for Spurs than most London clubs. Fuck those racist Chelsea bastards! UP THE SAINTS !!!

**slave** · 09-01-2003, 12:18 PM

Sheffield Utd 2 - Liverpool 1

poor scousers are struggling haha

**FatBassLines** · 09-01-2003, 02:30 PM

ahahahah i really hate scousers die u scouse pigs!

**dman** · 09-01-2003, 05:08 PM

all you need worry about....

**FatBassLines** · 09-01-2003, 05:17 PM

what an old dwarf with a big mouth , ahahah i dont think so, the only reason he gets a game is because J floyd had a bustup with cluadio"soccer is liking baking a cake" ranieri.

**dman** · 09-01-2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by FatBassLines
what an old dwarf with a big mouth , ahahah i dont think so, the only reason he gets a game is because J floyd had a bustup with cluadio"soccer is liking baking a cake" ranieri.

nahh.. not at all.. zola at 36 is still one of the premier strikers in the league... easily has in top three skilled men in the league.. just lacks the fitness due to his age.....

on fire at start of the season, calmed down a bit now but thats understandable... hes an old bastard.... along with the black pearl and gudjohnsen they are the only genuine threat to arsenal.....

**slave** · 09-01-2003, 05:25 PM

the title is between 3 in my opinion

Arsenal - c'mon lads lets go for the treble
Man Utd
Newcastle (have a game in hand, if they keep consistent they could be challenging)

**PKING** · 09-01-2003, 05:29 PM

Sheffield Utd 2 Manchester 1.

**FatBassLines** · 09-01-2003, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by PKING
Sheffield Utd 2 Manchester 1.

keep dreaming , although id love to see that no chance, the tonge cant do it again. PLus they still have to play at anfield.

**misc.** · 09-01-2003, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by FatBassLines
cluadio"soccer is liking baking a cake" ranieri.

rofl!

**DeSTinY** · 09-01-2003, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by FatBassLines
what an old dwarf with a big mouth , ahahah i dont think so, the only reason he gets a game is because J floyd had a bustup with cluadio"soccer is liking baking a cake" ranieri.

please .... zola looks much better than that dwarf-horse mouth flattop striker that the toons av ... and he plays whole lot better than shearer 2 !

**FatBassLines** · 09-01-2003, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by DeSTinY
please .... zola looks much better than that dwarf-horse mouth flattop striker that the toons av ... and he plays whole lot better than shearer 2 !

ahahahahahahah that is soooooooooooooo funny, if newcastle offered bellamy or shearer for zola they would snap not just there arm off but half there torso aswell.
Bellamy shearer is the best attacking force in the premiership.
better then shearer ahahaha yeh thats been shown by his performances this year as hes being tipped to be voted in the uefa team of the season.

**slave** · 09-01-2003, 05:54 PM

i reckon sven goran eriksson would give his left testicle for shearer out of retirement and play for England again, credit where credits due, Shearer has been good this year, and i'm not even a jordie

**dman** · 09-01-2003, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by FatBassLines
ahahahahahahah that is soooooooooooooo funny, if newcastle offered bellamy or shearer for zola they would snap not just there arm off but half there torso aswell.
Bellamy shearer is the best attacking force in the premiership.
better then shearer ahahaha yeh thats been shown by his performances this year as hes being tipped to be voted in the uefa team of the season.

nahh.. chelsea and or any other team wouldnt even think of it... zola, jimmy floyd and gudjohnsen.. second most potent strike force to arsenal, plus the best defence in the league + the best goalie in the league, cudicini -- the master... why change a winning combination...

**DeSTinY** · 09-01-2003, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by FatBassLines
ahahahahahahah that is soooooooooooooo funny, if newcastle offered bellamy or shearer for zola they would snap not just there arm off but half there torso aswell.
Bellamy shearer is the best attacking force in the premiership.
better then shearer ahahaha yeh thats been shown by his performances this year as hes being tipped to be voted in the uefa team of the season.

hehe .. rights credit dues when credits due ... shearer is class ...

but bellamy better than zola ? please dont let your affiliations or your dreams delude you ... bellamy has speed ... zola doesnt have speed but he has everything else .. the vision .. the touch .. and most importantly a bloody quick and adaptive footballing mind ...

bellamy will never come close to what zola has achieved ...

**FatBassLines** · 09-01-2003, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by DeSTinY
hehe .. rights credit dues when credits due ... shearer is class ...

but bellamy better than zola ? please dont let your affiliations or your dreams delude you ... bellamy has speed ... zola doesnt have speed but he has everything else .. the vision .. the touch .. and most importantly a bloody quick and adaptive footballing mind ...

bellamy will never come close to what zola has achieved ...

perhaps he wont achieve what zola has but at the moment he is a much better play, ive watched zola the last few weeks and every defender has him sussed kick him early on and hes pants the whole game, used to be great now hes just old.
and bellamy may reach the pinnacles like zola did hes only 22 and has his whole career in front of him.

**DeSTinY** · 09-01-2003, 06:10 PM

nah mate ... bellamy wont reach there man ... many hopefuls dont ...

zola when he was 22 ... was much more complete ....

**Birt** · 09-01-2003, 06:40 PM

Zola had his best two seasons with Parma 93-95, alas I think he is just turning up for his pension now.

Still an excellent player but I don't think I would pick him as one of the better players in the league.

As for Bellamy he is quite handy but he seems to be a bit too aggressive probably picked that up from old Allan, but the toon strike force is mighty.

Alas they aint as good at falling over as the Man United frontline, and well neither Man United, Newcastle or Chelsea have the Gaelic flair upfront like Arsenal.

Still makes for good football though and if its good football on the pitch it means its great to watch.

**dman** · 09-01-2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Birt
Zola had his best two seasons with Parma 93-95, alas I think he is just turning up for his pension now.

Still an excellent player but I don't think I would pick him as one of the better players in the league.

wot about 97' at chelsea.. zola and vialli fukn unstoppable!!!!... this year rocketed to 9 goals way ahead of the rest and then admittably died in the ass.. but he still is dead ball specialist and still makes decent crosses and strikes... theres talk of another year.. i wouldnt be suprised or disappointed... even if he only plays 20-30mins a game....

**FatBassLines** · 09-01-2003, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by dman
wot about 97' at chelsea.. zola and vialli fukn unstoppable!!!!... this year rocketed to 9 goals way ahead of the rest and then admittably died in the ass.. but he still is dead ball specialist and still makes decent crosses and strikes... theres talk of another year.. i wouldnt be suprised or disappointed... even if he only plays 20-30mins a game....

dead ball specialist my ass if u dont count the deflections i dont think hes scored a goal this season.

**Birt** · 09-01-2003, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by dman
wot about 97' at chelsea.. zola and vialli fukn unstoppable!!!!... this year rocketed to 9 goals way ahead of the rest and then admittably died in the ass.. but he still is dead ball specialist and still makes decent crosses and strikes... theres talk of another year.. i wouldnt be suprised or disappointed... even if he only plays 20-30mins a game....

If you mean his first season for Chelsea 96/97 when he scored about 8 goals.

It wasn't too bad I mean he had a handy team around him that worked well.

They managed to score the FA Cup with the fastest goal in its history. But he still only scored 8 goals. Yes his buildup play is exeptional and I teach "the zola shuffle" when I am coaching. So he will go down in history but I still think he is only good in patches his best years are behind him and if he stays on at Chelsea earning X amount of pounds per week it is only highlighting the fact that the team is a team of hasbeens that are getting paid far too much and the club should go bankrupt sooner rather than later under its current management.

But thats another thing all together.

**Birt** · 09-01-2003, 06:52 PM

And I thought he was going to be heading off back home to play for Nuorese, or Torres next year?

**Xtreem** · 09-01-2003, 06:54 PM

this is a bit off track BUT....

don't you think it is silly how Australian Rules is actually called football!?

They hold the ball something like 95% of the time!

**dman** · 09-01-2003, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Birt
If you mean his first season for Chelsea 96/97 when he scored about 8 goals.

It wasn't too bad I mean he had a handy team around him that worked well.

They managed to score the FA Cup with the fastest goal in its history.

robbiee de mateoooo!!!!!!!!

**Birt** · 09-01-2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by dman
robbiee de mateoooo!!!!!!!!

Not as good as Ben Roberts too worried about messing up his hair rather than trying to tap the ball over the bar...goon.

Alas the boy Juninho was unable to rescue the mighty Boro and has since led to a downward slide for the boys from Teeside.

Well I think its all Bryan Robson's fault and then as a consequnce El Tel. But thats another story.

**dman** · 10-01-2003, 10:45 AM

if your absolutely bored shitless and want to fire a few shots at goal at work check out:-

http://www.robertobaggio.com/games/index.asp

**DeSTinY** · 10-01-2003, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Birt
Yes his buildup play is exeptional and I teach "the zola shuffle" when I am coaching. So he will go down in history but I still think he is only good in patches his best years are behind him

zola shuffle ? is that the one he drops right shoulder .. fakes right .. drops left shoulder fakes left .. then taps ball with outside right foot away from defender and sweeps a right foot curler into the top left corner of the goal ? hehe ...

yeah ... have to say i agree with u guys ... he is certainly past his best ... but obviously useful to have in your team ... his work rate for someone at 36 is excellent .. much like shearer, though both players have different approaches, shearer a classic CF , zola the "inthehole" playa ...

... both much better than f@cking sheringham right now ...

**dman** · 10-01-2003, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by DeSTinY

... both much better than f@cking sheringham right now ...

teddy's always been a useless fuckwit

**DeSTinY** · 10-01-2003, 12:28 PM

ahahaha ... hows that ?!?!

nah mate .. sheringham is (was) class ... arguably one of the most intelligent players in england .. just that, he now lets his emotions and passion get the better of him .. prolly wants to do his best and play more but can't accept the fact his body cant take it anymore ...

**misc.** · 10-01-2003, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by dman
teddy's always been a useless fuckwit

my god, what a stupid and unintelligent statement.

as Destiny said, Sheringham is one of the most intelligent footballers in England, even at his ripe old age of 37.

he's not simply a striker but a great creator and reader of the game.

if i was Sven sheringham would, even now, still be in my England squad.

miss_p* · 10-01-2003, 03:47 PM

Leeds to play the Manks tomorrow!

yippi yay they are right behind Manchester!! hehe lookout!

**Static** · 10-01-2003, 03:50 PM

dman....

is that you, ross?

**dman** · 10-01-2003, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Static
dman....

is that you, ross?

nahhh.... but obviously your close to the source... with all the whittler plugs an all.. haha... we've met you just dont know me that well....

hear the drummer indeed....

**Static** · 10-01-2003, 03:57 PM

oh ok...

i take it you're the drummer from the dirty whittler then?

**dman** · 10-01-2003, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Static
oh ok...

i take it you're the drummer from the dirty whittler then?

thats the one.... nice work with the mastering on descho's remix by the way.... sounds phatsters....

**Static** · 10-01-2003, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by dman
thats the one.... nice work with the mastering on descho's remix by the way.... sounds phatsters....

cheers dood!

any time

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