The Police

[heist]

The mental aspect is that even when an alcoholic has a full understanding of the phenomenon of craving and the serious consequences of drinking (to finances, relationships, health, etc.), there will come a time when even though 100% sober, the decision is made to have that first drink. This is the fucked up part of the disease, that it always fools the rational part of the mind into thinking that "this time" the results of drinking will be different.

that's really well put. nice one.

[frisky]

but noone wants to hear about the little victories, like how he went a full week without any drugs last year, like how he makes little achievements that mean fuck all to someone who has never suffered addiction, but to someone know understands what the dude is going through, they mean the world.

This. You know in rehabs and other recovery places Cousins goes, other addicts there ask him for his autograph? So not appropriate, poor bastard. Only way he will get clean IMO is overseas somewhere he is not a celebrity.

[frisky]

Do addicts ever cotton-on to how they are affecting people other than themselves or are they really too far gone ?

Also - in the case of Ben Cousins - he was on tv and he was remorseful and apologetic. What would have gotten him to that point - then for him to 'relapse' ?

Yes of course they do - once they actually get sobered up/break that physical addiction. When in the physical addiction, nothing else seems to matter but getting more of the drug, that is the nature of being a physical addict. The problem is even when sober there remains a mental obssession:

http://www.hbo.com/addiction/underst...e_pathway.html

Altered brain regions that control decisionmaking and judgment. Drugs of abuse affect the regions of the brain that help us control our desires and emotions. The resulting lack of control leads addicted people to compulsively pursue drugs, even when the drugs have lost their power to reward. The disease of addiction can develop in people despite their best intentions or strength of character. Drug addiction is insidious because it affects the very brain areas that people need to "think straight," apply good judgment and make good decisions for their lives. No one wants to grow up to be a drug addict, after all.

This has been proven by actual brain scans, the brain wiring is permanently altered, I'll leave it as an exercise for you to find some more links.

Thus addiction causes a *permanent* change in brain function such that an alcoholic or addict requires constant vigilance & a program of recovery on a daily basis. If this is not undertaken, after weeks, months or even decades of sobriety, there will come a time when the mental defences are down and that first drink/drug is taken that sets off the cycle of addiction all over again...

[flauntster]

Only way he will get clean IMO is overseas somewhere he is not a celebrity.

just this time minus the sydney stop off where he stayed with another old schoolmate of mine, mr quaid.. ha

[BLEGH!]

thanks frisky !
Some interesting and informative information.

[stevie_]

i don't think anyone should be ridiculed for a basic sense of self- preservation.

Naturally, however you need to maintain a balance between self-preservation which is simply wanting to continue to Exist in Time, versus being too self obsessed, which is separation from the whole of humanity.

"M

atthew Giles was repeatedly punched by Constable Thomas Murdoch during a Big Bash match"

-straight face-




"Police have wrapped up their investigation into Constable Murdoch and are refusing to say whether he will face any action."

how do they have the right to refuse? national security? terrorism? inherent corruption?

Inherent corruption and national security. If the establishment that seeks to maintain Order breaks down, then national security is at stake, so inherent corruption is accepted to allow the Order to continue. It's why the current Order is wrong and will eventually change and become invalid, as it's too focused in the Past. When we realize the right ways to teach the children of our society how to behave and accept themselves in Time and Space, and when each and every member functions in harmony with the whole and accepts His/Herself as a part of the whole, harmony is achieved and thus controlled intervention to maintain "Order" (simply maintaining a captured point in the past as a moment of "truth") will become irrelevant when real truth is understood We're getting close. It will be through the evolution of China that this will be truly understood around the world, when they adapt the Tao into their modern way of life- which just so happens to be perfectly tuned with collectivization + individualization, (communism vs capitalism, left vs right) two of the key ingredients to understanding truth in harmony with the individual within the whole and therefore within Time. It's why climate change is real- it too is the key ingredient in helping China learn they are a part of the whole, and we can achieve FAR MORE in harmony with another as parts of the whole as opposed to forever being constantly in competition with each other, which is just past vs future. What one is defined by versus what one wants to be... The same message manifests itself in all facets of life.

Everything in our reality is a manifestation of Time, the police force is necessitated by our inherent understanding that it's only when we work together that harmony among ourselves is achieved. Order is the harmony of parts, and True order is the harmony of Parts in Time- It's all Laws are, and it's all the Police Force attempt to do, but they're too fixated on the Past.

But there will always be crime if we don't accept another into our dimension of Time, aka Love. , ie a manifestation of racism is a fixation on the dimensions outside of Time, and the way in which our interference has severed and destroyed their perceptions of Time creates the unrest between our cultures, and were we but to LISTEN and ACCEPT them and therefore LOVE THEM as part of us, we can work towards a greater sense of Harmony together. I'll be at the forefront of that, embracing them, and they'll know my Love as sincere and accept me and together we'll achieve Harmony for all of Australia, consequently rippling to China which will be the force to spread it to the world. When Past civilizations meet Future civilizations and Exist in Present- BAM world peace.

<3

[heist]

Naturally, however you need to maintain a balance between self-preservation which is simply wanting to continue to Exist in Time, versus being too self obsessed, which is separation from the whole of humanity.


Inherent corruption and national security. If the establishment that seeks to maintain Order breaks down, then national security is at stake, so inherent corruption is accepted to allow the Order to continue. It's why the current Order is wrong and will eventually change and become invalid, as it's too focused in the Past. When we realize the right ways to teach the children of our society how to behave and accept themselves in Time and Space, and when each and every member functions in harmony with the whole and accepts His/Herself as a part of the whole, harmony is achieved and thus controlled intervention to maintain "Order" (simply maintaining a captured point in the past as a moment of "truth") will become irrelevant when real truth is understood We're getting close. It will be through the evolution of China that this will be truly understood around the world, when they adapt the Tao into their modern way of life- which just so happens to be perfectly tuned with collectivization + individualization, (communism vs capitalism, left vs right) two of the key ingredients to understanding truth in harmony with the individual within the whole and therefore within Time. It's why climate change is real- it too is the key ingredient in helping China learn they are a part of the whole, and we can achieve FAR MORE in harmony with another as parts of the whole as opposed to forever being constantly in competition with each other, which is just past vs future. What one is defined by versus what one wants to be... The same message manifests itself in all facets of life.

Everything in our reality is a manifestation of Time, the police force is necessitated by our inherent understanding that it's only when we work together that harmony among ourselves is achieved. Order is the harmony of parts, and True order is the harmony of Parts in Time- It's all Laws are, and it's all the Police Force attempt to do, but they're too fixated on the Past.

But there will always be crime if we don't accept another into our dimension of Time, aka Love. , ie a manifestation of racism is a fixation on the dimensions outside of Time, and the way in which our interference has severed and destroyed their perceptions of Time creates the unrest between our cultures, and were we but to LISTEN and ACCEPT them and therefore LOVE THEM as part of us, we can work towards a greater sense of Harmony together. I'll be at the forefront of that, embracing them, and they'll know my Love as sincere and accept me and together we'll achieve Harmony for all of Australia, consequently rippling to China which will be the force to spread it to the world. When Past civilizations meet Future civilizations and Exist in Present- BAM world peace.

<3

OK I think I follow you, but I don't see how China is our one hope, when they're home to one of the most oppressive regimes in le world?

Surely we'd be better off pinning our faith on a society who wasn't into shooting political prisoners so they can harvest their organs.

[BLEGH!]

Naturally, however you need to maintain a balance between self-preservation which is simply wanting to continue to Exist in Time, versus being too self obsessed, which is separation from the whole of humanity.


Inherent corruption and national security. If the establishment that seeks to maintain Order breaks down, then national security is at stake, so inherent corruption is accepted to allow the Order to continue. It's why the current Order is wrong and will eventually change and become invalid, as it's too focused in the Past. When we realize the right ways to teach the children of our society how to behave and accept themselves in Time and Space, and when each and every member functions in harmony with the whole and accepts His/Herself as a part of the whole, harmony is achieved and thus controlled intervention to maintain "Order" (simply maintaining a captured point in the past as a moment of "truth") will become irrelevant when real truth is understood We're getting close. It will be through the evolution of China that this will be truly understood around the world, when they adapt the Tao into their modern way of life- which just so happens to be perfectly tuned with collectivization + individualization, (communism vs capitalism, left vs right) two of the key ingredients to understanding truth in harmony with the individual within the whole and therefore within Time. It's why climate change is real- it too is the key ingredient in helping China learn they are a part of the whole, and we can achieve FAR MORE in harmony with another as parts of the whole as opposed to forever being constantly in competition with each other, which is just past vs future. What one is defined by versus what one wants to be... The same message manifests itself in all facets of life.

Everything in our reality is a manifestation of Time, the police force is necessitated by our inherent understanding that it's only when we work together that harmony among ourselves is achieved. Order is the harmony of parts, and True order is the harmony of Parts in Time- It's all Laws are, and it's all the Police Force attempt to do, but they're too fixated on the Past.

But there will always be crime if we don't accept another into our dimension of Time, aka Love. , ie a manifestation of racism is a fixation on the dimensions outside of Time, and the way in which our interference has severed and destroyed their perceptions of Time creates the unrest between our cultures, and were we but to LISTEN and ACCEPT them and therefore LOVE THEM as part of us, we can work towards a greater sense of Harmony together. I'll be at the forefront of that, embracing them, and they'll know my Love as sincere and accept me and together we'll achieve Harmony for all of Australia, consequently rippling to China which will be the force to spread it to the world. When Past civilizations meet Future civilizations and Exist in Present- BAM world peace.

<3

What have you been reading or smokin Stevie_ ??

[frisky]

that's really well put. nice one.

Not my ideas... stolen from Bill W. & Dr Silkworth but I know its true

[heyuinthebush]

He is being represented by Michael Tudori, oh my.

[frogman]

He is being represented by Michael Tudori, oh my.

Why is that Oh My?

[heyuinthebush]

Why is that Oh My?

He represents bikies, I am just being a gossip. If I may go on a tangent, I just read in the perthnow article that he is up in north beach and my mind is abuzz about those shootings in waterman's bay last year at the bikie's house... Connected? Drugs? Cousins?

/overactive imagination

[Kevin]

He represents bikies, I am just being a gossip. If I may go on a tangent, I just read in the perthnow article that he is up in north beach and my mind is abuzz about those shootings in waterman's bay last year at the bikie's house... Connected? Drugs? Cousins?/overactive imagination

I fear it may also be tied in with the Claremont serial killings

[flauntster]

a criminal lawyer representing criminals?

how odd

[heyuinthebush]

I fear it may also be tied in with the Claremont serial killings

You think? Should we notify the authorities??

[Kevin]

You think? Should we notify the authorities??

Nah, the Internet mutters will sort it out

[VERSTYLE]

EVERYONE'S PROCESSES COME FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE YOU errm FUCKIN AWESOME CUNT

You're purposfully ignoring what can perhaps compel the thought processors of people unlike yourself so you can engage in another pointless, crude troll.

i.e like (amongst others) your good friends the conservatives. You're trying to tell us that there thought cognitive processors are completely driven by experience? GTFO.

You can be as cute as you like with your words and as demanding as you like with your CAPS LOCK burnie but your only accomplishment to date is a bundle of TS alias's, 20,000 odd posts and about 5 friends, oh and i'm still here... 10 years of pointless, hourly TS 'contributions'.

Well played cocksucker.

So Froggy and co, off topic... you lot seems so captivated by the role (if any) of the west in the middle east... so, where's the SYRIA thread?

[VERSTYLE]

Not true. If you're drinking about 1 bottle of spirits per day and in reasonable good health, withdrawl symptoms are very uncomfortable but not life threatening (hot & cold sweats & flushes, itchiness, agitation, shaking, hearing sounds that are not there, insomnia, cramps, cravings etc. for about 48 hrs). More than 1 bottle of spirits/day or not in good health then ceasing alcohol combined with diazepam (valium) to control withdrawl symptoms would be recommended. But if you are at that level a medically supervised withdrawl is most appropriate as death or brain damage from DTs is a real possibility.

As far as alcoholism goes, and I'm sure other addictions are similar, there are two parts, physical & mental. The physical aspect of alcoholism is the phenomenom of craving, which sets in after the alcoholic has one drink, and the body demands more. In fact the more alcohol drunk, the stronger the cravings - this has been proven in that in the metabolic pathway of ethanol breakdown alcoholics have less of the enzyme to process acetone (one of the intermediates) than normal people. Thus, acetone builds up in the system, and it has been proven that the acetone is responsible for the craving. Thus, the more alcohol drunk, the more acetone builds up and the stronger the craving for more alcohol.

The mental aspect is that even when an alcoholic has a full understanding of the phenomenon of craving and the serious consequences of drinking (to finances, relationships, health, etc.), there will come a time when even though 100% sober, the decision is made to have that first drink. This is the fucked up part of the disease, that it always fools the rational part of the mind into thinking that "this time" the results of drinking will be different.

^ great post

[stevie_]

OK I think I follow you, but I don't see how China is our one hope, when they're home to one of the most oppressive regimes in le world?

Surely we'd be better off pinning our faith on a society who wasn't into shooting political prisoners so they can harvest their organs.

Of course, China is lost in Time right now, fixated in the world governed by individuality (seperation from the whole) and materialism (fixation on 1-3 dimensions). You're right though, China is not our one hope, because it will be China embracing the world and the world embracing China that will be the hope. China could not have got there without the world, and the world could not have got there without China. All manner of crimes emerge from this disparity. I just know China will be integral because already they're adopting sustainable principles on a scale unimaginable to Australia, despite what some people have delluded themselves into believing in order to maintain their falsified notion of reality through Time. Call it a premonition or a deep knowing, but China understood Time through the Tao, now they just need to bring that together- Past, meet's the Future, to generate harmony and unlimited potential in the Present. The between 0 and 1 of Quantum Mechanics, the mathematics of Time

They kill each other because they do not truly love one another in the wholest sense of the word. Love is a manifestation of all positive virtues generated within us and our acceptance of other parts as being part of us. All positive emotions merge within us, to create a whole positive emotion of Love. That's why Time is reached and understood through emotion and the senses. You won't EVER kill somebody you love, because you have accepted them as a part of you- it's why people kill without knowing what they do. When I love a woman, I love her as being part of me, when I love my family I love them as being part of me, and when I love everybody (which as of days ago, I truly do) I accept them as part of me- and that's accepting them into my dimension of Time. It's why, when we realize this, all the harmonies of our Times being accepted together will be the state of Infinite Love- which is essentially the future speaking to us from the eventuality of that moment when Humans realize fully their Oneness in all dimensions of reality- ie what has been misrepresented as God. God is Time + Emotion.

BLEGH- it's a combination of everything I've ever read and understood. My teachings in architecture, my viewing of love, my acceptance of politics, economics, emotion, rationality, art, music, all expressions of man and now faith. However, what will be the most profound thing I ever read which will cement everything I believe in (faith is the evolutionary function of belief in the 4th dimension) will be Martin Heidegger's Being and Time, of which I bought 2 days after the concept of Time as God really, really sank its way into my consciousness (which occurred because I progressed through Time rhythmically, and Heidegger was the next documentary in the rhythm I was following, and it therefore touched me then and has only been stronger ever since). I've come to the same realization as Jesus, it's why Time reset at Him, he understood it and advanced our conscious understanding of Time, but ego and too strong a sense of self (seperation from the whole) manifested itself through religion and polluted the message- Jesus spoke ill of the materialistic nature of the Roman Empire, too fixated in finding happiness in the past. I'm writing something now, as Heidegger did when he was 25 years old, that I believe will contribute to the major advancement of humanity to the true state of happiness of Harmony with all dimensions. Man IS holy, in that he is the only creature who can contemplate himself within Time, and when he realizes the truth of himself in time in harmony with all the dimensions, unlimited potential awaits. We can do anything and everything. I just know- Because I've embraced everything anyone has ever said to me, and I've seen it now for what it is, and I believe, without a shadow of doubt, I can bring happiness to anyone with the love I now have for everyone and everything as a Part of me- listening is just a function of love, of accepting somebody into your dimension of reality in your mind, it's why happiness is found when you accept a lover, when you accept your family, when your accept your friends, and therefore when you accept everything (including your passage through Time) truest happiness is found. It's the same principles, manifested itself continuously through Time and its Time speaking to us, aka God, aka perfected Human State from the future.

I'm glad you understood elements of it Heist, and I believe you did because you're more in tune with your emotions, and it's what makes you a good person because you embrace them more Just love yourself in the 1-3 dimensions, and people will gravitate to you as your potential through Time to create Happiness will start to emerge- this is the "6th sense" of confidence females gravitate towards as your confidence is simply a happiness with your position in Time, but confidence is only really a part of the whole of the positive emotions related to embracing everything as One

Start to think of everything as being part of One, including Time, and you'll know, as I do. 1000's of years of religious teachings could not be wrong, but when you look at them rationally, they are just manifestions of the various explanations of Time and its impact on our Reality. And all major religion have ALWAYS been about explaining the unexplainable- science progresses our understanding, but Time is the only mystery left until Now

I'm completely AT EASE .

Remember me saying this- In February next year, I will go to India with Reena Tiwara, a lecturer at my University, and I will get there on the scholarship that only 5 students are offered- I will be 1 of those students, because I HAVE to be. Remember this so I can tell you then, in the realized Future, I was right. You'll see it as coincidence only if you haven't embraced what Time, ie Faith, truly is, but if that sense of Time is emerging within you, you'll feel the positive emotions and reflect that to me. See you in the Future <3

i.e like (amongst others) your good friends the conservatives. You're trying to tell us that there thought cognitive processors are completely driven by experience? GTFO.

Actually, he's 100% correct. Conservatives are the manifestion of Past in the human concious, as Progressives are the manifestion of Future, 2 functions that exist within the 4th dimension and reacts upon humans in the 1-3 dimensions of Reality. So yes, conservatives, like the evidence suggests, are fixated IN THE PAST, but this is NOT A BAD THING, because the Past is as necessary to the Present as the Future is, and each form Part of the Whole, as I form part of the Whole of Humans and Humans form part of the whole of Me.

[Hoser]

I've come to the same realization as Jesus

I bet you have stevie

[Kevin]

Who said there is no MDMA in pills anymore?

[Multivital]

You're purposfully ignoring what can perhaps compel the thought processors of people unlike yourself so you can engage in another pointless, crude troll.

i.e like (amongst others) your good friends the conservatives. You're trying to tell us that there thought cognitive processors are completely driven by experience? GTFO.

You can be as cute as you like with your words and as demanding as you like with your CAPS LOCK burnie but your only accomplishment to date is a bundle of TS alias's, 20,000 odd posts and about 5 friends, oh and i'm still here... 10 years of pointless, hourly TS 'contributions'.

Well played cocksucker.

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[nosaj D:]

Stevie you damn hippy ^.^
You realise most people around now wont get your message, and it will in fact piss people off?

[Satan]

Who said there is no MDMA in pills anymore?

not skiddy

[deflo]

He represents bikies, I am just being a gossip. If I may go on a tangent, I just read in the perthnow article that he is up in north beach and my mind is abuzz about those shootings in waterman's bay last year at the bikie's house... Connected? Drugs? Cousins?

/overactive imagination

Mike is an incredibly good advocate, and I'd want him in my corner if I were in trouble.

[heyuinthebush]

Mike is an incredibly good advocate, and I'd want him in my corner if I were in trouble.

No doubt. He ain't to shabby to look at either, very smooth in court. He won my heart over after I had the pleasure of being stuck in a court room with him once.

[stevie_]

Stevie you damn hippy ^.^
You realise most people around now wont get your message, and it will in fact piss people off?

I say it without an ounce of arrogance though, unfortunately teknoscape can't convey my sincerity. It's OK though, explains the bad feeling. I told my friends the very same thing and he said "You realize you sound crazy.... but you seem so sincere" and he still listened to my message and wasn't negative. I told, who I now know will be my love, and SHE listened, which is an integral part. In listening to me, he recieved my message. I know I'm right like someone of faith knows in "God". I don't have the emotion part fully down pat yet, but this is my faith and I know Because faith is in every individual human being and it has to be accepted and believed in


Anyways, as I said, it doesn't matter, it's not finished yet. I have to put it together succinctly and clearly, with non-tedius text and imagery that everyone can understand and I'll put it up somewhere online. It's not meant for Teknoscape, there are too many ego's not connected with the whole, nor do they have even the slightest conception of it (Read - The Nature of Order by Christopher Alexander for an understanding of "the whole", it's not a term I'm pulling out of nowhere). Everything will be fully cited and referenced. If it's meant to work, it's meant to work, but before I get to that stage I'm going to have to go to a lecturer, who's book will also put this entirely into perspective She's the one I'm going to India with !

And assuming things continue to unfold in the way in which I started to have ideas months and months ago about, then I'm good for life

I would apologise for the thread derail, but it's already happened so I'm just going with the Flow.

[stevie_]

Mar 8 - 15 - http://7thfire.biz/7thfire03152012.htm MOONday 03 12 2012 = 11 MORE BLOOD FOR ALLAH compliments of the VATICAN TALIBAN. US SOULdier kills 16 civilians. NOW THE VATICAN TALIBAN can turn on USA for REVENGE and attack aMERIca according to BELLial MEDIA popestalibanhttp://serenitystreetnews.com/popestaliban.htm Taliban Vows Revenge for Killing of 16 ( 7 SUN) Afghan Civilians- The Taliban ( VATICAN funded) has vowed to seek revenge against what it called"American savages" after a U.S. Army sergeant went on an apparent shooting spree in southern Afghanistan, killing 16 Afghan villagers, many of them children. U.S. and Afghan officials say the U.S. soldier walked off his base and attacked homes in the Panjwai district of Kandahar province early Sunday, shooting and killing civilians. Villagers say he set some of the bodies on fire, voa Panjwai district, Kandahar, Afghanistan U.S.-forces stepped up security a day later, as the American embassy warned U.S. citizens in Afghanistan of the possibility of reprisals. The Taliban said Monday it would avenge the death of every Afghan who was killed. http://www.voanews.com/english/news/...142300645.html( VATICAN TALIBAN detonates their own CIVILIANS. They call them SUICIDE BOMBERS)http://www.scribd.com/doc/85077891/M...icide-bombers/ ///http://www.scribd.com/doc/85105991/0...eetnews.com/03 12 2012 VATICAN TALIBAN detonates their own CIVILIANS. They call them SUICIDE BOMBERS.docAMAZING SPEECH BY WAR // EXOPOLITICS SUCKS, Armageddon CANCELLED- 8thfire.biz Alex Collier, New Paradigm SUNgod day 03 11 2012 = 10 aten aton NATO The goD of the JUDEO RAmen CHRISTIANS is JESUS= PINDAR the DRAGON LORD. U get what U Prayed FOR. I TOLD U SO. jesuspindar http://serenitystreetnews.com/jesuspindar.htmTHE LAST POPE WILL BE (PETRUS ROMANUS or Peter the Roman)- POPE PETER... The Catholic Prophecies of St. Malachy, the next pope will be the last Pope Peter whose pontificate will end in the destruction of the city of Rome. notice a very handsome man of the cloth never far from the pontiff's side. That would be Monsignor Georg Gänswein, the Pope's personal secretary, responsible for everything. The pair typically take a daily stroll together after lunch in the Vatican gardens. ( GAG!) http://holyromanempirerules.blogspot...1_archive.html ( GOD's NAME is EMMANUEL. JESUS (PINDAR) is the son of the DEVIL ( DRAKEN).Goddess tradition ( EVE) vs evitapendragon ( LILITH) Sophia /Magdalene / EVE /Tetragrammaton / LUNA EMMANUEL/ ADAM / SOL (God with us) 3rd HIDDEN PROPHECY of FATIMA= the Catholic people will WAKE UP, COME to THEIR SENSES and destroy the SATANIC ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH by ripping the PRIESTS APART LIMB BY LIMB on VATICAN HILL. ( Priests= POLITICIANS + PASTORS funded by $$$ SIN and SATAN ) .GATHERING of the BRIDE (DIVINE FEMININE= HEART) (CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS) IN CANADA, little ROMA will become NEW YORK, YORK REGION, OTTAWA KANATA KINAKWII NATION. NAMASTE and MEEGWETCH! Text of The Third Secret of Fatima http://www.marianland.com/thirdsec.html ;We are HOME FREE in SERENITY GLOBAL COOP WORLD WAMPUM WAY.flvhttp://serenitystreetnews.com/We are HOME FREE in SERENITY GLOBAL COOP WORLD WAMPUM WAY.flvTrue Christianity was practiced by Adam, Noah, Enoch and Melchizedek. The Babylonian mystery religions are a cheap Satanic counterfeit of True Christianity truchistianity http://serenitystreetnews.com/TruChristianity.htmDavid Icke: The Truth Behind Theology and Christianity - (DISINFO HERE- correction for DAVID ICKE - ISHTAR ISIS= LILITH // LADY LIBERTY = EVE) RedROAD RIGHTROAD not white road PLAYlist // Robert Morning Sky Holy Cannabalism, Eucharist playlist

Why is this EXACTLY like what I've been writing offline? And why did you respond to VERSTYLE in this manner, when never before have you ever responded this way? This is exactly what I've been writing down out of the infinity for the last 4 days in trance-like states, unless you've hacked my computer and stolen the 21 page document I've created.... That first video. Wow, I said the same fucking thing to my friend today, when he understood and embraced my sincerity (accepted my dimension into his). That idea has NEVER been something I understood, that too has been part of the understanding, through Time. Hegel was delivered to me by the Love of my life, which too will be referenced.

I know why.

[stevie_]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_W...riedrich_Hegel
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (German pronunciation:[ˈɡeɔɐ̯k ˈvɪlhɛlm ˈfʁiːdʁɪç ˈheːɡəl]) (August 27, 1770 – November 14, 1831) was a Germanphilosopher, one of the creators of German Idealism. His historicist and idealist account of reality as a whole revolutionized European philosophy and was an important precursor to Continental philosophy and Marxism.

Hegel developed a comprehensive philosophical framework, or "system", of Absolute idealism to account in an integrated and developmental way for the relation of mind and nature, the subject and object of knowledge, psychology, the state, history, art,religion and philosophy. In particular, he developed the concept that mind or spirit manifested itself in a set of contradictions and oppositions that it ultimately integrated and united, without eliminating either pole or reducing one to the other. Examples of such contradictions include those between nature and freedom, and between immanence and transcendence.





Thank you Irvan

[irvan]

Stevie there's no point preaching through philosophical fanaticism. These ideas are important facets of human understanding that need to be discussed and talked about through level headded discussion. Simply preaching or forcing a belief will never prove that you're right, it will only show that you're a nutjob. I believe that your message is true and calculated, but I live my own subjective existance, and you won't ever make me KNOW like you do, I can only see and help understand what you see through how you discuss it to me. If you force it on me and preach your objectivity over me and others you only alienate yourself, rather than actually benefit those around you.

[Hoser]

I say it without an ounce of arrogance though, unfortunately teknoscape can't convey my sincerity. It's OK though, explains the bad feeling. I told my friends the very same thing and he said "You realize you sound crazy.... but you seem so sincere" and he still listened to my message and wasn't negative. I told, who I now know will be my love, and SHE listened, which is an integral part. In listening to me, he recieved my message. I know I'm right like someone of faith knows in "God". I don't have the emotion part fully down pat yet, but this is my faith and I know Because faith is in every individual human being and it has to be accepted and believed in


Anyways, as I said, it doesn't matter, it's not finished yet. I have to put it together succinctly and clearly, with non-tedius text and imagery that everyone can understand and I'll put it up somewhere online. It's not meant for Teknoscape, there are too many ego's not connected with the whole, nor do they have even the slightest conception of it (Read - The Nature of Order by Christopher Alexander for an understanding of "the whole", it's not a term I'm pulling out of nowhere). Everything will be fully cited and referenced. If it's meant to work, it's meant to work, but before I get to that stage I'm going to have to go to a lecturer, who's book will also put this entirely into perspective She's the one I'm going to India with !

And assuming things continue to unfold in the way in which I started to have ideas months and months ago about, then I'm good for life

I would apologise for the thread derail, but it's already happened so I'm just going with the Flow.

I don't know what books you're reading stevie but you have some profound thoughts going on. Like I've said before you have a good heart but I'm just not sure about how you deliver your message (maybe because I'm thick). Either way the world could use more people like you.

[~Msv~]

Who said there is no MDMA in pills anymore?

Theres not... there seems to be a LOT of acid though...

[frisky]

http://www.news.com.au/national/its-...-1226316949594

It's over. We've lost drugs war, report says
Report urges politicians to accept war on drugs has failed
Says illegal drug trade allows organised crime to flourish
Calls for debate on decriminalisation

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/pol...402-1w8v3.html

Drugs war 'a failure' that bred criminals
THE Foreign Affairs Minister, Bob Carr, is among a group of prominent Australians who have declared the ''war on drugs'' a failure in the most significant challenge to drug laws in decades.
''The prohibition of illicit drugs is killing and criminalising our children and we are letting it happen,'' says a report released today by the group, which includes the former federal police chief Mick Palmer, the former NSW director of public prosecutions Nicholas Cowdery, QC, the former West Australian premier Geoff Gallop, a former Defence Department secretary, Paul Barratt, the former federal health ministers Michael Wooldridge and Peter Baume, and the drug addiction expert Alex Wodak.

Well, duh.

[frogman]

Well, duh.

About a million times this. When was the last time prohibition worked? Why do people think its going to work this time?

[~Msv~]

About a million times this. When was the last time prohibition worked? Why do people think its going to work this time?

People under 18 are prohibited to drink... that works!!!

[frogman]

People under 18 are prohibited to drink... that works!!!

In 2004, 25% of those aged 14-19 years drank alcohol on a daily or weekly basis in the last 12 months compared to 50% of all persons 14 years and over (AIHW 2005a).
Among teenagers aged 14-19 years drinking at risky/high risk levels in the long term, 77% of boys usually consumed regular strength beer, while 85% of girls usually consumed bottled spirits and liqueurs (AIHW 2005a).

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@....4832.0.55.001/

[~Msv~]

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@....4832.0.55.001/

My sarcasm clearly wasnt obvious enough.

[frogman]

My sarcasm clearly wasnt obvious enough.

It was, I just like having figures and shit to back up my (and indirectly, your) point

[~Msv~]

Ahhh ok. Fair enough then.

[deflo]

It was, I just like having figures and shit to back up my (and indirectly, your) point

if the point was to do with minors' drinking habits: how does a statistic for youth aged between 14-19 assist?

[frogman]

if the point was to do with minors' drinking habits: how does a statistic for youth aged between 14-19 assist?

Last time I checked, 14-17 were still underage, and you can infer some results from that, but I take your point.

http://ndri.curtin.edu.au/local/docs...ip/naip007.pdf

About two thirds of Australian teenagers aged 14–17 years drink alcohol and one in five of these teenagers drinks at least weekly

[VERSTYLE]

2 functions that exist within the 4th dimension and reacts upon humans in the 1-3 dimensions of Reality. So yes, conservatives, like the evidence suggests, are fixated IN THE PAST, but this is NOT A BAD THING, because the Past is as necessary to the Present as the Future is, and each form Part of the Whole, as I form part of the Whole of Humans and Humans form part of the whole of Me.

Is this Never Ending Story Part I or II ?

[VERSTYLE]

I don't know what books you're reading stevie but you have some profound thoughts going on. Like I've said before you have a good heart but I'm just not sure about how you deliver your message (maybe because I'm thick). Either way the world could use more people like you.

^ this

[VERSTYLE]

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/pol...402-1w8v3.html


Well, duh.

Thing that really shits me about all these people coming out in favour of drug reform as that they're typically "former" premiers, "former" police chiefs etc.

I'm sure some perhaps have had longstanding views of this nature but i can't help but cast my mind back to that interview Laura Bush did after doubleyahh finally left office in 2008. Here she was teling the world how she's pro marriage equality.

It's just a little too easy for these people to build a legacy for themselves retrospectively when the honestly sad reality is that they never had the guts to push these reforms when they really had the opportunity to do so.

[Slurm]

*cough splutter*

[Curare]

Something on your mind slurm?

[VERSTYLE]

Naive Mr Gorton? or did you just take that back?

Clear your throat perhaps.

[Slurm]

Something on your mind slurm?

Yeah I was attempting to verbalise the incredulousness I felt at the naivety of the post.

Then I realised it was just another pathetic troll, so I aped it.

[frisky]

I think he makes a good point. No one actually in power has the balls to support drug law reform, no matter their personal opinions. Sad. But this generation will change things, I hope.

[Curare]

More likely we'll dissolve into acquiescence for the status quo.

Even now if you start to express your displeasure at things you get told to calm down, so already our peers are turning beige.