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    Deserving of it's own thread imo.



    Rik Clay unsurprisingly died in suspicious circumstances in 2008.

    The documentary (it's lengthy) goes into great detail regarding Zyonic/Masonic symbolism and the past, and quite possibly the future, it is painting.

    Essential viewing.
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    Oops, "its".

    Big favour to ask - could someone please YouTube search "Rik Clay exposes London 2012" (no further keywords required) and embed the video? I can't as I'll be away from the PC for a while.

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    I predict this thread will fill up with crazy fast.

    OOPS TOO LATE

    here you go, freak yourself the fuck out:

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    im from canada aye

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    Make of it what you will. If nothing else, it's fascinating.

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    there's a problem when you think shit as simple and common as the occurrence of numbers and simple geometric shapes is somehow significant

    especially when you believe the evidence of an intergalactic conspiracy involving man, gods and aliens will be a breadcrumb trail of.. numbers and triangles.


    it's a bizarre chain of thought - the olympic rings are circles and circles look like eyes and the CEO of coke has eyes and coke destroys the health of the world which is an illuminati conspiracy
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    I take some of the masonic conspiracies quite seriously but beware of the misinformation out there as Masons are well-known for planting that themselves. Let's not forget all the crazies on the Internet (like myself) with homepages on Angelfire and Geocities rambling mad about their homespun theories that dilute the concentration of genuine attempts to "expose" them.

    Masonic symbolism and numerology pervades some of the largest organisations, the governments, the pages of history and our culture. People probably don't even realise it when they use expressions like "square deal" or "on the level" that they are making references to it. Anyway, I'm over these sort of conspiracies but my interest does get rekindled now and then. I do find it a bit creepy though how far their influence can reach those at the top and it is pointless asking most Masons about the 'truth' as they will most likely never reach the very highest echelons and even if they did they'd never admit to anything. If anything they will get angry at you because they themselves have been disappointed there were no virgin sacrifices and a subterranean network going from lodge to lodge. Or they will be 'insulted' because someone could suggest something so sinister about their "brothers" and then continue on with their misplaced loyalty.

    I've been told by a Catholic that has been around for some time that there was a period in Australia not so long ago where they would make it virtually impossible for Catholics to land a job in any organisation where Masons had powerful employees. Then again, they have been at each other for eons. Then there was also Pope John Paul I who "mysteriously" died after 33 days in office for some reason...

    This does sound a bit crazy but it is actually far more comforting ridiculing those that believe in them rather than being horrified about these Masonic machinations.



    Beware of Lubemobile. Their phone number is 13 11 77 which is clearly a Masonic reference and they will "fix" your car all right if they find out you've been exposing the activities of Freemasons on Internet forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multivital View Post
    I predict this thread will fill up with crazy fast.

    OOPS TOO LATE

    here you go, freak yourself the fuck out:
    What the almighty FUCK was that?

    I was hypnotised, and now its over, and I have a strange urge to go fuck a lion or something.
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    Slurm: A person of your intelect dismissing the documentary in such emphatic fashion certainly nudges me to rethink any credibility it may have.

    I'm of Gookie's thinking though. Numbers probably hold greater weight (Independence Day: 4 July = 11) here.

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    No, I was referring to the clip MV posted. I haven't watched the doco yet.

    Ill get a chance to watch it tomorrow sometime.
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    teh j00z

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    ^ Ah okay

    You may or may not come away from it with the same reaction.

    What I would like to see is conclusive evidence of the Illuminati's existence (or non-existence).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slurm View Post
    What the almighty FUCK was that?

    I was hypnotised, and now its over, and I have a strange urge to go fuck a lion or something.
    It was an advert for fake eyelashes.

    Seriously.



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    its all just a bit 'zeitgeist'

    i just figure that human brains seek out and recognise patterns. we have been around long enough that it's not actually that surprising that we would see (what appear to be) recurring patterns, either statistically (numbers, srsly?) or symbolically (geometric shapes, nature representations etc)

    it reminds me of that forward email about how "omg - two american presidents who were assassinated, had THE SAME AMOUNT OF LETTERS IN THEIR NAMES. WUT DOES IT ALL MEAN?!?!"

    if you are already looking for the pattern, you're going to find it - or make it up to suit you.

    that said, i think the masons are (at the most casual) just a big boyz club no different to the raging mooses in canada or wherever, and (at the most srs) kind of sad old men clinging desperately to a sense of tradition they don't find in the rest of the world.

    i also don't disbelieve that there are actual "secret" organisations of dudez who get together and plan how they're going to control the world. i just think they're sad, old politicians or 'old money' people who are simply pleased that the world has played into the 'free market' ideology so much that it suits them (and their interests) just fine. i don't think its because they ACTUALLY control the world, the world as it is now just works well for them so they'd like to keep it that way.

    *disclaimer: have not actually watched the video yet, will do so when i get home
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    might watch this tonight on my free energy powered laptop while enjoying a cheeky pint of bleach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitude View Post
    Deserving of it's own thread imo.
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    Having had time to think about it, some of it makes sense, a lot probably doesn't.

    I dunno, with peacetime martial law being introduced in the States, I got a bit carried away there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitude View Post
    Having had time to think about it, some of it makes sense, a lot probably doesn't.

    I dunno, with peacetime martial law being introduced in the States, I got a bit carried away there.
    In other news, the effects of marijuana should pass within 12-16 hours of the drug entering the bloodstream.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitude View Post
    Having had time to think about it, some of it makes sense, a lot probably doesn't.

    I dunno, with peacetime martial law being introduced in the States, I got a bit carried away there.
    I have no doubt that they exist. To what extent they fuck everyone in the ass is the question. The fact people can harness energy from the ether (that supposedly doesn't exist) and in turn produce limitless free clean fuel sources or accelerate to speeds beyond those of light instantly with no effects from inertia and have been curing diseases people are still being treated for with TOXINS, ALL to perpetuate broken systems that has been obsolete for decades to keep the cash flowing into the pockets of the few. We are daily exposed to radiation and toxins that we should not be. Fuck, Hitler flouridated his water to sterilize his people so they would roll over when he was fucking them in the ass.

    This isnt a free market, you are being brain washed by your televisions and news papers. People with money can and are forcing markets to do exactly what they want. You think the last GFC wasnt another money grab by the big banks? This shit has been planned for years. They arent just overlooking history, they have learned from it and are going to do a better job of it this time. Do not think the worst is over.

    Emeeeerica recently abolished a bill/whatever that was passed centuries ago where the army and police were seperated to stop tyrannical dictators from abusing its power. Not to mention passing bills to allow po-po to knock on your door and request to enter on no grounds what so ever and if you refuse they have the right to detain you indefinitely with no reason or trial without telling anyone... All in the name of liberty!! TAKE MY RIGHTS AWAY AND PROTECT ME MMMAANNNGGG!!! DIVIDE AND CONQUER!! FEAR YOUR NEIGHBOUR!!

    I love it how you guys can post so much BS in the "Fuck yeeeeah" thread and not connect any dots..?? The system is broken and it didnt just happen by itself. These people arent just retarded, they have an agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    The fact people can harness energy from the ether (that supposedly doesn't exist)and in turn produce limitless free clean fuel sources
    What is the ether again?

    or accelerate to speeds beyond those of light instantly with no effects from inertia
    Say what now? Can you point to anything anywhere ever that has broken the speed of light? Or anything anywhere ever that does not suffer from the effects of inertia?
    and have been curing diseases people are still being treated for with TOXINS
    OH NOES NOT TOXINS. I suppose once you cure one disease, you have cured em all, right?

    ALL to perpetuate broken systems that has been obsolete for decades to keep the cash flowing into the pockets of the few. .
    This I sort of agree with
    We are daily exposed to radiation and toxins that we should not be Fuck, Hitler flouridated his water to sterilize his people so they would roll over when he was fucking them in the ass.
    And now we are back into batshit crazy territory, at which point I switch off and cant be fucked dealing with the crazy
    This isnt a free market, you are being brain washed by your televisions and news papers. People with money can and are forcing markets to do exactly what they want. You think the last GFC wasnt another money grab by the big banks? This shit has been planned for years. They arent just overlooking history, they have learned from it and are going to do a better job of it this time. Do not think the worst is over.

    Emeeeerica recently abolished a bill/whatever that was passed centuries ago where the army and police were seperated to stop tyrannical dictators from abusing its power. Not to mention passing bills to allow po-po to knock on your door and request to enter on no grounds what so ever and if you refuse they have the right to detain you indefinitely with no reason or trial without telling anyone... All in the name of liberty!! TAKE MY RIGHTS AWAY AND PROTECT ME MMMAANNNGGG!!! DIVIDE AND CONQUER!! FEAR YOUR NEIGHBOUR!!

    I love it how you guys can post so much BS in the "Fuck yeeeeah" thread and not connect any dots..?? The system is broken and it didnt just happen by itself. These people arent just retarded, they have an agenda.

    Love you cunts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post

    I love it how you guys can post so much BS in the "Fuck yeeeeah" thread and not connect any dots..?? The system is broken and it didnt just happen by itself. These people arent just retarded, they have an agenda.
    vested corporate interests wheedling increasing control over government regulations over a period of decades =/= illuminati conspiracy

    and

    illuminati conspiracy =/= free energy machines
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogman View Post
    What is the ether again?
    This link will answer more than one of your questions.



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    Scalar energy froggy, do some fucking research man. I dont have the time or the desire to rebut every one of your pointless rebuttals.

    You feel good when you think you "burn" someone froggy..?? Your path to moral high ground is littered with the bodies of those you have lashed..?? Its funny how intellectual people use their superior mind power to put others down and get pleasure from knowing you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chay View Post
    vested corporate interests wheedling increasing control over government regulations over a period of decades =/= illuminati conspiracy

    and

    illuminati conspiracy =/= free energy machines
    Chay on the other hand subjectively observes information provided and weighs them. They were several examples. I could go on allllllll day.

    The point of the energy harnessing machines is that this technology is leaps and bounds ahead of what we are given. I can do this on a bees dick of a budget. We are intentionally kept in the dark for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    Chay on the other hand subjectively observes information provided and weighs them.
    tee hee.



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    Quote Originally Posted by chay View Post
    i just figure that human brains seek out and recognise patterns. we have been around long enough that it's not actually that surprising that we would see (what appear to be) recurring patterns, either statistically (numbers, srsly?) or symbolically (geometric shapes, nature representations etc)

    it reminds me of that forward email about how "omg - two american presidents who were assassinated, had THE SAME AMOUNT OF LETTERS IN THEIR NAMES. WUT DOES IT ALL MEAN?!?!"

    if you are already looking for the pattern, you're going to find it - or make it up to suit you.

    that said, i think the masons are (at the most casual) just a big boyz club no different to the raging mooses in canada or wherever, and (at the most srs) kind of sad old men clinging desperately to a sense of tradition they don't find in the rest of the world.

    i also don't disbelieve that there are actual "secret" organisations of dudez who get together and plan how they're going to control the world. i just think they're sad, old politicians or 'old money' people who are simply pleased that the world has played into the 'free market' ideology so much that it suits them (and their interests) just fine. i don't think its because they ACTUALLY control the world, the world as it is now just works well for them so they'd like to keep it that way.

    *disclaimer: have not actually watched the video yet, will do so when i get home
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    Quote Originally Posted by Multivital View Post
    tee hee.
    Meh, I have provided more than enough "published articles" previously to prove the existence of zero point energy and the fact that cancer treatment as we know it is a fraud. Chay isnt just arguing for the sake of being a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    Scalar energy froggy, do some fucking research man. I dont have the time or the desire to rebut every one of your pointless rebuttals.
    Wait, asking you to back up your claims is a pointless rebuttal now?

    I already read enough shit that has a basis in fact, rather than theories that so far are unproven, unreliable and unbelievable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    and the fact that cancer treatment as we know it is a fraud.
    Make sure you tell that to the people that have had cancer cured, by methods that dont involve drinking bleach, but rather and studied, tested and proven to work.

    Im arguing with you, because you post bullshit (faster than light travel that isnt effected by inertia, are you fucking kidding me?) and then refuse to back it up with any sort of reliable source. The fact im being a dick about it is completely besides my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogman View Post
    Make sure you tell that to the people that have had cancer cured, by methods that dont involve drinking bleach, but rather and studied, tested and proven to work.
    Ever heard of a placebo bro..?? How is it that by treating a symptom (cutting out a fucking tumor) you have "cured" a disease yet you still haven't treated the cause of the disease? Ooohh... Wait, if i cure something then how is it possible for it to come back..?? Cure being the end of a medical condition. If someone dies from carcinogenic chemo or radiation which is PROVEN to cause cancers while undergoing treatment the stats show that they did not die from the treatment, rather the cancer..

    Modern medicine has no place in treating disease. Unfortunately thats the most profitable area for them to be in. Fuck whats best for the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    Ever heard of a placebo bro..?? How is it that by treating a symptom (cutting out a fucking tumor) you have "cured" a disease yet you still haven't treated the cause of the disease? Ooohh... Wait, if i cure something then how is it possible for it to come back..?? Cure being the end of a medical condition. If someone dies from carcinogenic chemo or radiation which is PROVEN to cause cancers while undergoing treatment the stats show that they did not die from the treatment, rather the cancer..

    Modern medicine has no place in treating disease. Unfortunately thats the most profitable area for them to be in. Fuck whats best for the public.
    Yes, I have heard of a placebo. Fortunately, science has come up with this thing called double blind trials, which help eliminate the placebo effect. Maybe you have heard of them?

    You are just descending into fucking fruitloop territory now. If modern medicine has no place in treating disease, what do you propose to use instead?

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    Modern medicine has no place in treating disease. Unfortunately thats the most profitable area for them to be in. Fuck whats best for the public.
    Why are humans currently living the longest we ever have?
    Last edited by vapours; 23-03-2012 at 02:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogman View Post
    Im arguing with you, because you post bullshit (faster than light travel that isnt effected by inertia, are you fucking kidding me?) and then refuse to back it up with any sort of reliable source. The fact im being a dick about it is completely besides my point.
    Electro gravity and Ion wind. "UFO" you might call them. Once again, its all there and available to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    Electro gravity and Ion wind. "UFO" you might call them. Once again, its all there and available to you.
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    Electrokinetics is the term used by Brown for the electrically generated propulsive force. No widely accepted experimental data yet supports these calculations.
    Lazy wikipedia quoting, but it says your full of shit, so i support it.

    Please back up your quote about faster than light travel, uneffected by inertia, or admit you are full of shit.

    Its really not that difficult to put me in my place duder. All you gotta do is back up your statements. Can you do that?
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    The faster than light travel was all found to be due to faulty timers in the end Affiliate.

    And no other scientific apparatus in existence is capable of measuring it to any degree as close/accurate as LHC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    Modern medicine has no place in treating disease.
    You do know you are actually batshit insane, right?

    I don't mean 'a bit mental' or 'has strong views' but 'Should probably be put on relatively strong medication'.

    I am genuinely curious - do you actually KNOW you are mental but can't help it (as with things like anxiety, depression etc) or do you genuinely think you are sane, and that the last thousand years or so of human advance was all ENGINEERED BY THE REVERSE VAMPIRES AND THEIR ILLUMINATI PAWNS IN THE WAR AGAINST THE SAUCER PEOPLE AND THEIR REPTILOID ALLIES.

    Or this an elaborately hilarious pisstake of when crazy people have unfettered internet access?

    Note I am not judging you for being crazy, I'm just concerned if you are not joking and are not seeking treatment.

    For example should you decide to have children, your kind of crazy could seriously endanger their lives should they get sick with scarlet fever and you refuse to take them to hospital but instead attach them to a contraption consisting of an empty ice cream tub, four tampons and half a banana.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Multivital View Post
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    Scarlet tampons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogman View Post
    Yes, I have heard of a placebo. Fortunately, science has come up with this thing called double blind trials, which help eliminate the placebo effect. Maybe you have heard of them?

    You are just descending into fucking fruitloop territory now. If modern medicine has no place in treating disease, what do you propose to use instead?
    For a drug to be put forward for FDA approval it requires 2 cases (could be of 340863489967309847621=735981273=95 trials done) where the drug has been more effective than a placebo. WOW.. Thats ground breaking proven results.

    I suggest giving the body the correct (NOT RDI, they are a joke) levels of vitamins and minerals (in the correct forms obviously) so processes in the body are reacting correctly. Its chemistry man, your body has countless processes and if you dont provide the right chemicals the reactions are bastardized. Mitosis and meiosis go wrong and your body starts producing mutated cells, no magnesium and your body cant produce ATP (energy), the list goes on. We are putting too much shit into our bodies and it does the best it can with them and not enough good shit and the body slowly dies.

    First do no harm and let food by thy medicine.

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    Im deadly serious multi. I will have dobalini around again some time once we finish gettin the car runnin on HHO.

    I lived with a Stage 4 acute lymphoblastic leukemia patient who was given 6 months to live that did what multiple doctors and you all speak of as "impossible".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    Im deadly serious multi. I will have dobalini around again some time once we finish gettin the car runnin on HHO.

    I lived with a Stage 4 acute lymphoblastic leukemia patient who was given 6 months to live that did what multiple doctors and you all speak of as "impossible".
    Cool story bro.

    That's got fuck all to do with what you said.

    You said "Modern medicine has no place in treating disease."

    I say you're an utter mentalist.

    Get help before you hurt someone.



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    Longevity of human life spans vs modern medicine is certainly interesting.

    When life long, 70 yo vegans are mistaken for 40 yo's, while diet pills ensure that those with an unhealthy diet live to a similar age, I am led to believe that modern medicine has its place, but it is far too heavily relied upon.

    I am intrigued as to how healthy a 70 yo would be/how youthful they would appear if they ate exclusively organic produce, including organic meat.

    Btw antibiotics are one such form of medication that are far too heavily relied upon.

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    On placebo, it tends to relate more to a persons own 'mood' or 'feelings' than other symptom ratings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Multivital View Post
    Cool story bro.

    That's got fuck all to do with what you said.

    You said "Modern medicine has no place in treating disease."

    I say you're an utter mentalist.

    Get help before you hurt someone.
    I stand by that and go further. MODERN MEDICINE IS HURTING PEOPLE!! They are toxins, POISON! If im lying on a table in 4 pieces because I fell of a motorbike at 300 km ph GO FOR YOUR LIFE!! Pharmaceuticals should not be treating symptoms. There are reasons why you get a stuffy nose, cough, temperature and projectile feces. Your body is treating the cause. Accommodate that shit and super charge it. Your body has an innate ability to heal itself. Its a bit arrogant to say we know better than our bodies..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    I stand by that and go further. MODERN MEDICINE IS HURTING PEOPLE!! They are toxins, POISON! If im lying on a table in 4 pieces because I fell of a motorbike at 300 km ph GO FOR YOUR LIFE!! Pharmaceuticals should not be treating symptoms. There are reasons why you get a stuffy nose, cough, temperature and projectile feces. Your body is treating the cause. Accommodate that shit and super charge it. Your body has an innate ability to heal itself. Its a bit arrogant to say we know better than our bodies..
    Its a bit arrogant to think that what is good for you and your friend who had cancer is good for the rest of the world.

    Just a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate View Post
    I stand by that and go further. MODERN MEDICINE IS HURTING PEOPLE!! They are toxins, POISON! If im lying on a table in 4 pieces because I fell of a motorbike at 300 km ph GO FOR YOUR LIFE!! Pharmaceuticals should not be treating symptoms. There are reasons why you get a stuffy nose, cough, temperature and projectile feces. Your body is treating the cause. Accommodate that shit and super charge it. Your body has an innate ability to heal itself. Its a bit arrogant to say we know better than our bodies..
    That's right! Before modern medicine people used to live for HUNDREDS OF YEARS IN PERFECT HEALTH!!! THERE WAS NO DISEASE!!!

    What's that, fossil evidence shows rampant disease and short lifespans?

    EVERYONE KNOWS FOSSILS WERE PLANTED BY TEH JOOS IN THEIR WAR AGAINST THE ILLUMINATED MASTERS WHO LIVE AT THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH!!!!!!

    Goddamn nutjob.
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    For the curious, here is an excerpt from the Q&A section of one of the 'DRINK OUR BLEACH TO CURE YOUR CANCER AND AIDS' purveyors. MMS is the Miracle Mineral Solution, aka just add water to get your bleach.


    Question: Is taking MMS intravenously much more efficient than drinking it? Should I stop taking my medication for HIV?

    Please treat me as your son and tell me what best should I do to get rid of this HIV virus. Would you tell me to stop my three drugs medication and when? Is it ok to overlap MMS with current medication? Should I take MMS IV if it’s much more efficient than drinking it? Stopping medication is a big decision for me to make as I always felt to rely on them in order to live. Please help me with your experience and testimonials.
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    Answer: MMS intravenously is much more effective than taking by mouth. Stop the drugs immediately. HIV is not dangerous. It does not cause AIDS. What causes AIDS is the drugs that you are taking, each one is extremely poisonous. That causes AIDS. The vomiting was a good sign. It means you body is getting rid of bad stuff. It takes a certain amount of courage to stop the drugs, but you really know that they are bad, and that they will not help you live longer. Just depend on the MMS as it is a thousand times better. Read the MMS data a few times. See the logic. Ask yourself that is not more logical that taking poisons. Visit http://www.miraclemineral.org for the MMS book and DVD and http://www.jimhumble.com for more info.





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    ^ Is this along the lines of what Pearl Jam tried to expose?