yep. like jo said, it feeds the ego, which then supports the proposition that some are better than others.
and yes, we all* do it, albeit to varying degrees.
*frogman being the only exception of course
let them eat cake...
When was the last time you did something for the first time?
i don't know what the root cause is then. i would've thought it was ego. i could well be wrong.
perhaps its the paradigms in which certain "classes" of society operate? and the norms and expectations on each "class" that then feed the ego into believing "hey, i'm better because of X Y and Z reasons" ?
let them eat cake...
We need BLEGH! to sort this all out.
2 dark nuggets kickin it old skool boyeeee
You just want someone else to pick on don't ya!! I know your wily Irish ways.
I pretty much got nothing aside from a heated discussion I had at a party the other weekend with a guy Oz born but background Croatia or Slovakia or something. He was saying he doesn't want people in the country to clog up his road system, and he has to wait in line behind them etc etc when its his rights as Australian to be first type BULLSHIT !! He also said it is normal for people to want their 'kind' (read: ethnicity) to do well and get ahead and be the best of the best no matter where you are. (put more racist connotations on what he was saying) It got more heated but it was the morning after the night before sooo...... yeah.
I had to cut him down and say Nay. Not the right attitude mate. He is now referred to as The Racist. He doesn't like being called that. But he was really being racist.
At the end of the day we're all human beings and all deserve to be treated equally no matter if we speak Engrish or not/ sit in a wheelchair if we can walk / have a roof over our head or not.
Where is the compassion for people these days ?
The world is not fair and equal and at times is pretty fuckin evil but we're all human and should be able to look at someone that's not doing so well and look at our own situation and think yeah I've got enough to share and reach out (or into your pocket) and give them some cash/ food/ clothes.
Has anyone checked The Aviary yet?
*gets gonged off, exits to stage right*
I don't know if it's my lack of sleep, or maybe i smoked myself retarded, but i think i just understood what BLEGH just said
AND IT MADE A CRAZY KIND OF SENSE
People in Vancouver who obviously have money (perfectly dyed pink hair and phones) have cups attached to string like fishing poles and put in them in your path as you are walking.
I'm going to start chucking them coal...just like Santa to all the naughty boys and girls.
How about you stop being such a ditzy cow and if it bothers you so much, ask these people why they are doing it.
If they say 'ITS FUN LOLZ I GOTS LOTSA MONEY' then sure, have your white middle class female revenge.
If they say 'MY DAD RAEPS ME EVERY NITE SO I DONT LIVE AT HOME AND YES MY MUM BOUGHT ME THIS PHONE SO I CAN CALL HER WHEN PEOPLE BASH ME WHY DO YOU ASK' then maybe you shouldn't act so insufferably selfish and stupid.
What I am saying is that I can seeeee that that particular hipster has joined a group of people who are not homeless who beg.
You can make more money begging on the streets than many people make slaving at work.
Don't be a small town ignorant man and call me a ditzy cow.
FYI I just walk by and keep my thoughts to myself.
Piss off and just stick to keeping everyone updated with THRILLING TALES of north american weather conditions, I tell you it's keeping everyone utterly riveted to their screens.
And prices of things in shops over there. That also is blindingly fascinating.
Having said all that, I did like the part of your post about keeping your thoughts to yourself.
It's an excellent notion, feel free to start as soon as you like.
I would expect you to totally miss the point.
The point is you are a dumb, vicious, middle class bimbo who can't be fucked thinking and just slams people worse off than she is.
I think everyone, including me, has got that by now.
You're the reality of what Geisha acts like. She starts off being as unpleasant as you but after a slap upside the head has a think about it and moves towards being a decent human being,
You, not so much.
Ok, ill spell it out for you. Although many people beg are homeless and need money, not every person who begs needs to. That was what I was saying.
And what other viscous things have I done lately?
On a boring day at work, TS always delivers.
Joy at last - to know there is no happiness in the world!
I'm at home, but on the toilet so same/same
Hairdressers are not cheap (ie cut/dry roughly $65 dye is $100+) , I doubt people who need money so desperately they need to beg would have perfectly kept roots.
My concern is that there are people who genuinely need substance/psychological/monetary help and there are people who take advantage and ruin it for those who really do need help. There are known professional beggars and I am making comment on those people.
Multi, I often do not explain things and may and come off as 'viscous' with snippets of a bigger opinion to you, but you do not know a thing about me, what I have been through or those around me in my life. in 2010 I had an event in which I can relate to this thread but I avoid talking about it t because I was at a lifetime low and would rather forget. TS is fairly 2D and I will never know who you are through this forum or you I so there is no need for snide comments.
I do not know what is happening in Perth right now, so I cannot make comment on that. I can only make comment knowledge of where I am now.
Sorry to have offended you all.
Last edited by miss_p*; 24-06-2012 at 06:50 AM. Reason: elaboration
depressing thread. disgusting reactions from both ends of the argument.
without taking the time to think about the issue in any real detail, i'd say many people will see the pink hair and phone and the begging cup, and think wtf.
it's good that people at least voice these views so you know the perception you're needing to try and break through. it's worse when people just ignore the issue, you can't even begin to fight the stigma if you don't know what you are working with!
let them eat cake...
THAT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT
IT IS ANYTHING BUT FAIR
WE ALL KNOW THIS PERCEPTION, NINETY PERCENT OF THE POPULATION HAS IT AND VOICES IT WHENEVER THEY CAN
AS NINETY PERCENT OF THE POPULATION ARE STUPID SELF CENTRED ARSEHOLES
IT'S NOT NEW INFORMATION WE NEED TO SUDDENLY EXAMINE OUT OF THE BLUE
IN FACT YOU'VE POSTED THE SAME STUFF MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE YEARS
You see I know you mean well (now), but these fuckos will read your post as validation.
What you are missing is that these people GET OFF on judging and 'exposing' 'fraudulent' beggars and homeless. Look at the glee a couple of people have shown in this thread when their keen investigation unveils that some of these filthy beggars don't match up to fucked up definitions of what they 'should' look and act like.
There is an utterly vile undercurrent of fear and sanctimonious judgment going on in these people. It is indeed worse than simply ignoring it (which is bad enough) it's an active attempt to attack and further disempower marginalised people.
Quite simply it's an aggressive fear reaction to anything outside a safe, soft, middle class perspective.
How to change it? Force these karnts to spend some time on the streets. Even just talk to homeless (or watch them on a screen if it's too confronting) - and not just one or two but enough to grasp the spectrum of issues.
But even then, there's not guarantee they won't just sink back into middle class self righteousness once they return to their comfortable existence.
miss p in person is a cool chick but i never have any clue what she is talking about on here. its like we are mid conversation everytime she posts something. maybe explain yourself a bit more, give more back story/history kate :-)
- has a friend who works as a hairdresser
- is a prostitute as well, needs to take care of appearances for work
- decided that she would treat herself out of her meagre takings so she would hold onto her last shred of self esteem ZOMG HOW DARE SHE
That took five seconds.
What kind of mouthbreathing fucktard do you need to be to actually engage in the 'WELL I SAW A HOMELESS PERSON WHO WASNT COVERED IN SHIT THEREFORE THEY ARE FAKING IT AND I SHOULD BE WITHIN MY RIGHTS TO KICK THEM' bullshit?
Seriously, some fucken dog cunts in here. Go fucking ask them if it worries you so much, I guarantee the answer won't be what you expect.
I think there's some places where hair students give free haircuts to homeless people.
It's also not that much of a stretch to imagine a student getting someone poor in to colour their hair.
Warm liquid goo phase commencing....
there are many reason MSV. many homeless are actually not poor but mentally ill and not allowed to live at home. they often come from wealthy families who have turned their back on them or just dont know how to cope. I had one such friend exactly like this. He used to come out of graylands and not tell his parents. He used to get an allowance and it would build up whilst he was in graylands, then he would spend it on stupid stuff when he first got out.
Mentally ill often 'drift' as living anywhere they think they are being controlled/locked up. That guy that died when he was tazered over east was from a rich family and had access to money/funds/resources if he wanted to but chose to steal simply because interacting with someone at the till was too much for him. I have no idea how someone who had 'nice dyed hair' was homeless, but she was. She was begging on the street, had no shame in doing so and that is enough for me.
Sure you can make money begging, but the fact they are begging is enough for me to feel they are in a bad place. It is not a proud thing to do. I would be sure these ppl were in minority.
Cheers for the answer Mr D! Good to see there are still people on here that can answer questions without being a fucktard and getting caps lock involved. It was a question that I didnt know / couldnt see the answer to, hence I asked it.
Reality is for people who can't handle drugs.
Reality is for people who can't handle drugs.
i've seen some young kids who i was sure were taking the piss... got the vibe they were begging just because it was a way to scam a bit of free money
but it's pretty much impossible to tell, so these days i make my donatory decisions on whether or not i'm up for buying someone a sandwich, rather than whether or not they "deserve" a free sandwich.
blacker than the blackest black